Saddam loses appeal [Archive]

Dragunu

27-12-2006, 05:04 PM

Saddam is just a victim , like the victims he slaughtered during his rule. But what the hell, loads of arabs get slaughtered and tortured in middle eastern countries, and no one says anything.

Human Rights? LOL. thats something to laugh at. Human Rights get broken everyday, in front of WorldWide media in 3rd world countries. Where eas the UN when it was publicly known that the Shites ( shites rite? ) were mercilessly slaughtered and even the kurds i think. But this goes all to Islamic rule and teachings. They just live by the sword, and now by the gun and grenades strapped on ur torso, so, cnt really blame them.

In my opinion, let Saddam be hanged. A muslim less, but, afterall, USA got what it wanted, That is a powerful stronghold in the Middle East. And now shes claiming shes losing the war. Of course she is, shes been losing it the moment they entered baghdad, but still , she aint losing the shares on the Oil produced in Iraq and nearby areas.

yes i do agree that saddam's trial was politicilized, but, excuse me, what do u expect? An unfair man having a fair trial? U reap what u sow , so ....

Avaloner

27-12-2006, 05:28 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqVY04JVqiA

scarface

27-12-2006, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by Dragunu
Saddam is just a victim , like the victims he slaughtered during his rule. But what the hell, loads of arabs get slaughtered and tortured in middle eastern countries, and no one says anything.

Human Rights? LOL. thats something to laugh at. Human Rights get broken everyday, in front of WorldWide media in 3rd world countries. Where eas the UN when it was publicly known that the Shites ( shites rite? ) were mercilessly slaughtered and even the kurds i think. But this goes all to Islamic rule and teachings. They just live by the sword, and now by the gun and grenades strapped on ur torso, so, cnt really blame them.

In my opinion, let Saddam be hanged. A muslim less, but, afterall, USA got what it wanted, That is a powerful stronghold in the Middle East. And now shes claiming shes losing the war. Of course she is, shes been losing it the moment they entered baghdad, but still , she aint losing the shares on the Oil produced in Iraq and nearby areas.

yes i do agree that saddam's trial was politicilized, but, excuse me, what do u expect? An unfair man having a fair trial? U reap what u sow , so ....

you don't refer to the USA as she, but as it ...

No USA is not a powerful stronghold in the middleeast. The troops are tired, the US can't hold much longer with the casualties and risk increasing everyday.

The USA is facing real threats from Iran and North Korea, but its army is overstretched.

Regarding oil, I never heard any reports. But afaik it is controlled by the iraqi govt.

Xon

27-12-2006, 06:25 PM

The oil profits are decreasing so they're saying they're weak and preparing to pull out! Way to go! The reason america wants saddam hanged is because its one of the ways to cover its secrets :D!

These people don't now civilised behaviour at this stage so they need someone powerful like Saddam!

Same as Cuba! They needed a dictator to settle down and live in a more decent way! As for North Korea - if it makes a move it will be a complete disaster - Japan will have the excuse its been searching for ever since WW2 ended to completely restore its military power, China will end up defending NK somehow to just piss off Japan and hey we got satellite TV to watch it all live! Great world we live in!:dance:

scarface

27-12-2006, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Valkyr

and hey we got satellite TV to watch it all live! Great world we live in!:dance:

rofl :dance:

Liquid

27-12-2006, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by Valkyr
The oil profits are decreasing so they're saying they're weak and preparing to pull out! Way to go! The reason america wants saddam hanged is because its one of the ways to cover its secrets :D!

These people don't now civilised behaviour at this stage so they need someone powerful like Saddam!

Same as Cuba! They needed a dictator to settle down and live in a more decent way! As for North Korea - if it makes a move it will be a complete disaster - Japan will have the excuse its been searching for ever since WW2 ended to completely restore its military power, China will end up defending NK somehow to just piss off Japan and hey we got satellite TV to watch it all live! Great world we live in!:dance:

dont worry about that you wont need satalite, becuase you will live it

scarface

27-12-2006, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by Liquid
dont worry about that you wont need satalite, becuase you will live it

yep i bet Malta unleashes its military thunderstorm on north korea :o

Kevin

28-12-2006, 02:06 AM

Originally posted by seek
I wonder why.

so do I. I think its because of my exagerated good looks, although it's like the chicken and the egg. Which came first, the good mood or the good looks? =P

bk to topic:

Re: Dragunu - After bringing religion into it, aren't you meant to be FORGIVING? Or when you want you're suddenly some miraculous and loving christian?

Re: Topic - I think Saddam shouldn't be hung for merely political reasons. From one side, he deserves to be hung, but from the other, if he isn't hung it shows that the country is taking a step forward and might give hope and faith in the new government.

Also, the big deal about the appeal is that previously Saddam would most likely not be hung (his sentence was given quite a while ago) because in Iraq they don't hang people over 60yrs (Saddam is turning a pensioner in April). In most cases the appeal would take many months, whilst in the case it was obviously hurried in the hope that they get to see him hung. Infact, he is going to be hung within the next 30days.

yancho

28-12-2006, 02:29 AM

I think he will be hung.

Well from a democratic side I do agree that he is hanged. But, on the other hand, under his ruling, without the hands of USA, iraq was better off, there are still people dying, more than before, there are still atrocities, so why did USA enter there. And oil is the only answer I see to this equation, infact now they are feeling they are loosing the war :S

Kevin

28-12-2006, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by yancho
I think he will be hung.

Well from a democratic side I do agree that he is hanged. But, on the other hand, under his ruling, without the hands of USA, iraq was better off, there are still people dying, more than before, there are still atrocities, so why did USA enter there. And oil is the only answer I see to this equation, infact now they are feeling they are loosing the war :S

The supposed reason for the US-led invasion was fear of Chemical Warfare, which Saddam had already used on Iraq's Kurdish neighbours.

On March 16, 1988, the Kurdish town of Halabja was attacked with a mix of mustard gas and nerve agents, killing 5,000 civilians, and maiming, disfiguring, or seriously debilitating 10,000 more

and you keep saying Iraq was better off, Iraq was safer, ect...Mela Iraq biss tezisti? The Iranians, the Kuwaitis, the Israelites weren't really better off! =)

scarface

28-12-2006, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by The_Eviler_Cow
The supposed reason for the US-led invasion was fear of Chemical Warfare, which Saddam had already used on Iraq's Kurdish neighbours.

and you keep saying Iraq was better off, Iraq was safer, ect...Mela Iraq biss tezisti? The Iranians, the Kuwaitis, the Israelites weren't really better off! =)

still....

it wasn't the US war ...

Israel most prolly already has nuclear weapons...

Iran will have nuclear ... (or maybe already does)

And regarding Kuwait I don't know.

But my point is that these countries have their own defence methods, and there was no need for the US invasion. If they felt insecure they could have invaded Iraq themselves.

Like people said, Iraq is definitely worse off now...

it is being used as :-

A civil war ground - between the political parties (shite and the others)
Muslims vs US battleground
Alqaeda vs US battleground
Iran vs Iraq battleground
Iran vs USA battleground
Iraqi govt vs everyone except the US

and there are also other terrorist organizations fighting the US and the Iraqi Government..

I am not saying that under Saddam's ruling Iraq was ok, but now it got much worse imo.

Btw I don't think that the US are saying they are loosing the war because the oil prices dropped ! Oil prices change all the time ffs!!

Kevin

28-12-2006, 10:07 AM

what about the Gulf War, or the Iraq Iran war?

Liquid

28-12-2006, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by scarface
yep i bet Malta unleashes its military thunderstorm on north korea :o

jekk tfaqqa gwerra kulhad ha jidhol fija din id darba

vietnam also was not US war but they went, it will jsut happen the same, nistennaw il xi Nixon iehor biex johroghom min Iraq u (sakemm ma jibatx aktar troops kif kien amel l-1 darba)

Dragunu

28-12-2006, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by The_Eviler_Cow

Re: Dragunu - After bringing religion into it, aren't you meant to be FORGIVING? Or when you want you're suddenly some miraculous and loving christian?

kummenti banali jirrikjedu risposti ovvji u banali :

mela just to straight ur moralities rite mr.cow:)

tahfer, u tkun paljazza ta xi hadd hija storja differenti. Tahfer lil min jiddispjacih, hemhekk tigi il mahfra iwa. Lil min ma jiddipsjacihx, il mahfra tigi biss dahka fil wicc. ha naghtik ezempju kevin ghax forsi int ghadek ma tafx, jew forsi ma mortx il lesson tal muzew sew....

Il-qrar: Id-dnubiet tieghek jinhafru biss IF U REPENT. if u dnt repent, tkun hlejt siegha minn hajtek:)

issa hares lejn saddam.... lol, does he look as he repented? ax hlief jghajjat fil-qorti apparentament ma ghamilx, anzi, iggustifika li ghamel! Would you forgive such a man?

verbum dei kev :D ... or maybe u didnt attend the first few museum lessons to know what that means either?

scarface

28-12-2006, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Dragunu
kummenti banali jirrikjedu risposti ovvji u banali :

mela just to straight ur moralities rite mr.cow:)

tahfer, u tkun paljazza ta xi hadd hija storja differenti. Tahfer lil min jiddispjacih, hemhekk tigi il mahfra iwa. Lil min ma jiddipsjacihx, il mahfra tigi biss dahka fil wicc. ha naghtik ezempju kevin ghax forsi int ghadek ma tafx, jew forsi ma mortx il lesson tal muzew sew....

Il-qrar: Id-dnubiet tieghek jinhafru biss IF U REPENT. if u dnt repent, tkun hlejt siegha minn hajtek:)

issa hares lejn saddam.... lol, does he look as he repented? ax hlief jghajjat fil-qorti apparentament ma ghamilx, anzi, iggustifika li ghamel! Would you forgive such a man?

verbum dei kev :D ... or maybe u didnt attend the first few museum lessons to know what that means either?

you are totally wrong man....

did the jews repent for what they did to Jesus ???? yes of course they stuck a spear in his ribs! ... did he forgive them ? YES !

Dragunu

28-12-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by scarface
you are totally wrong man....

did the jews repent for what they did to Jesus ???? yes of course they stuck a spear in his ribs! ... did he forgive them ? YES !

lol. the jews are still undergoing their punishment now scarface... 2000 years later.....

"tibkux lili, imma ibku lilkom u lil uliedkhom u ulied uliedkhom "

moonbeam

28-12-2006, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Dragunu
lol. the jews are still undergoing their punishment now scarface... 2000 years later.....

"tibkux lili, imma ibku lilkom u lil uliedkhom u ulied uliedkhom "

lol.....yeah...
right....

V0rteX

28-12-2006, 02:01 PM

lol what an inappropriate quote :D

moonbeam

28-12-2006, 02:05 PM

lol...what a stupid argument....

if the jews suffered because they angered god,

by d same argument, mela, the ppl in third world countries are suffering because they angered God....

and people have children with disabilities, because they sinned and did not repent??

imo saddam should be hanged...imma dan largument bla sens...he shouldnt be forgiven not coz he did not repent but coz some things are unforgivable..
if a murdeder kills and repents...he is not forgiven...he is still sent to a life in prison..although if he goes to the priest and repents, he will be forgiven by god...suppost
the state and the church have nothing to do with each other.

Kevin

28-12-2006, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by moonbeam
the state and the church have nothing to do with each other.

zagreed!

and i don't think your religion ever acknowledged death as a punishment! -.- minalija, only God has the right to take life away!

Dragunu

28-12-2006, 02:40 PM

Useless talking in this forum. In fact, ill spare my energies for some other things as wasting time to single minded so-called gamers is indeed a waste of energy. Just to answer the last few ppl here:

vortex: lol what an inappropriate quote

innapporpriate fot the topic, but appropriate for scarface's comment. It is a quote that clearly showed that the jews will get anything but mercy from God. Christ is projecting the vision of the jewish people in an indirect way, which did not sound harsh for obvious reasons. Now if u cnt figure out the obvious, than i suggest u start reading more books.

Moonbeam: this is going to be a long one. I doubt that ur intelligence will be able to read it all but anyway, for the sake of those who want to read it ... :)

By history and religion, The jews are the chosen people of God. They were descended from various races, like ancient sumerians and early middle eastern races. So basically, the jews, started like most of races. By "mixture" of culture and customs. However, according to the Old testament, which is indeed a record of jewish history, it seems that these Jews were quite guided in a strict way by "God". So much that they had to pay and undergo many punishments for their disobedience. Much more than other civilisations at that time.

Starting from the exile in Egypt, then to the 40yrs waiting at the desert, which here i would like to point out that God Does not forgive without repentence. And the jews had to wait 40 years under the desert sun before marching to the promised land. A span of time that meant the death of a generation. Then later came more exiles, and that of Babylon. Which again, according to the scripture, these happened for the continous disobedience of the Jews to God. And they were not freed after a couple of years from babylon! They had, again to endure several decades, again, for repentance. And this repeats itself all over again through history of Israel. Now, Israel are quite a stable state now, but still, is not regarded as a safe country to be. Reason being? depends how u see it:

if u see it as a christian or a follower of the jewish religion, you will say, that it is the Punishment of God, as they were the chosen people however they threw that blessing away. Also, they were blind to see and recognize the long awaited messiah that is mentioned throughout the Old Testament.

from the sceptic point of view, you might say that Israel was not a powerful country in the history, thus got conquered many times, and this resulted in a weak state. Then after the destruction of Israel during the roman empire, the jews were nothing except a roaming / nomadic race throughout the old world. And then, when the Israel state was re-established in 1950's, they had to rightly fight for the land as it was taken from Arab states.

so moral of the story:
The jews suffered and are still suffering on how u see it. I see it as yes, because they did not anger God once or twice, but angered him thru all of history.

3rd world countries: lol, ma nafx jien, kif ghad aw nies jaghmlu dal paraguni. Ma tahsbuwhomx laffarijiet inthom?

Id-differenza bejn il lhud u nies tat 3 dinja :

kuncett totalment differenti. Il lhud qieghdin fl istat li qieghdin re: kif spjegajt ga. 3rd world countries are nothing but a victim of capitalism and Western Development. it is a pity and a disgrace that they have to suffer, but dnt blame God for it. Blame us and the governments for letting such thngs happen. And if there is a curse from God going on, then its on us all, ghax fit-tahwid tad dinja tal llum, kulhadd ottu qieghed.

disabled persons: gab, inkredibli int.... imissek tisthi tghid hekk. For most people, disabled persons are not a curse, but a gift! ghax tant tihu imhabba minghandhom li ma ssibha imkien hlief fiha. u sodisfazzjoni li jkollok minnhom hija wahda kbira. Do you call that a CURSE FROM GOD?

anyway this is my 2c. Onestament daqshekk ktibt in public ghax its useless.

if u find this inappropriate vortex, mela i beg u teach me whats appropriate in such topics.

you may now all continue to discuss saddams deaths sentence.

happy new year ^^

Kevin

28-12-2006, 02:59 PM

imo you're saying a load of crap. The Jews are not suffering. there are jews in america which aren't suffering, there are jews everywhere which are happy with their lives.
And the Isrealites aren't suffering because of God. As you said, they're suffering because it's a weak state, it's enveloped by Arabia and the Quran says that once Isreal is freed from the Jews, there will be world peace. Now as you've been happily saying that Mohammed wasn't inspired by God, then this punishment wasn't brought about by God.

I don't see why 3rd world countries suffering is any different. Ok, they're not Jews, but they're still suffering because of the course of development. Same goes for the Jews. Same goes for Chechnya. I doubt it's a very safe place to live in. Are they suffering because of God's wrath?

You believe in a God of the old testament, one that punishes and floods the world. In the New Testament, and what the Roman Catholic Church believe in is a forgiving God. "Turn the other cheek." Jesus always forgave, wether they repented or not. The only place he was pissed off was at the temple.

Anyway, this is totally unrelated to Saddam's death!

MaRkDeLf

28-12-2006, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by Dragunu
Useless talking in this forum. In fact, ill spare my energies for some other things as wasting time to single minded so-called gamers is indeed a waste of energy. Just to answer the last few ppl here:

gadamnnnn allahh hu akbar he knows it alll :rolleyes:

V0rteX

28-12-2006, 03:20 PM

:whistle:

yancho

28-12-2006, 03:38 PM

Ghidt hafna affarijiet dragunu, pero insejt haga wahda.

Il-qasma li hemm fil-Bibbja. Il-kliem li qal San Gwann il-Battista fuq Kristu. Is-sinjal ta ghala tqactet il-purtiera tat-Tempju. Jekk domt il-muzew int, anke jien domt, so difficli li ha tmerini fuq dan li ha nghid. It-testment l-antik jati d-dehra li Alla (li sa dawk iz-zminijiet kien meqjus bhala persuna wahda mux trinita), huwa hlejqa gusta hafna u kif qal Mose fil-ligi Israeljana l-antika "ghajn ghal ghajn sinna ghal sinna" (Exodus 21:23-27).

Nixtieq infakrek li din il-quote bidila kristu u qal : " Min itik daqqa ta harta, dawwar wiccek ghan-naha l-ohra" Matthew 5:39. Dan juri l-vera mahfra, u ghalfejn gie Kristu. Biex l-idea ta Alla bhala kiefer titnehha, il-Qasma li Alla huwa tal-ftit (kif jien Jahweh), hence il-purtiera tat-Tempju l-Kbir, sar l-Alla tan-nies, tieghek u tieghi, thus l-element ta Mahfra inbidel.

Regarding : Ibku lilkom u lil uliedkom, zgur ma fissirx minhabba l-glied u l-gwerer. Inkella 33 sena fuq l-art ikunu ghalxejn, ghax dejjem priedka mhabba u mhafra biex imbghad ipattijilhom hekk? NO SENSE AT ALL!!! He just prophetised what was going to happen, as you can read from here http://net.bible.org/passage.php?passage=Luke+19:41-44#n12 , but by far he was not meaning that he will make sure that they get what they deserved.

Issa, bk to topic, kif qalet moonshine, we are not in a Sharia Law, gifieri l-mahfra taghna bhala kattolici ma ghandiex tkun il-mahfra tal-ligi.

PS Jekk ma tridx tiddiskuti, fair by me, pero toqghodx just tati l-opinjoni tieghek u minghalik li you got it all right, hadd ma hu njorant u hadd ma ghandu jahseb li jaf kollox. L-injorant huwa dak li minghalih li jaf kollox.

johnmaclane

28-12-2006, 03:47 PM

it's a weak state

go tell that to the IDF,

weak state my bollocks!

MaRkDeLf

28-12-2006, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by yancho
Ghidt hafna affarijiet dragunu, pero insejt haga wahda.

Il-qasma li hemm fil-Bibbja. Il-kliem li qal San Gwann il-Battista fuq Kristu. Is-sinjal ta ghala tqactet il-purtiera tat-Tempju. Jekk domt il-muzew int, anke jien domt, so difficli li ha tmerini fuq dan li ha nghid. It-testment l-antik jati d-dehra li Alla (li sa dawk iz-zminijiet kien meqjus bhala persuna wahda mux trinita), huwa hlejqa gusta hafna u kif qal Mose fil-ligi Israeljana l-antika "ghajn ghal ghajn sinna ghal sinna" (Exodus 21:23-27).

Nixtieq infakrek li din il-quote bidila kristu u qal : " Min itik daqqa ta harta, dawwar wiccek ghan-naha l-ohra" Matthew 5:39. Dan juri l-vera mahfra, u ghalfejn gie Kristu. Biex l-idea ta Alla bhala kiefer titnehha, il-Qasma li Alla huwa tal-ftit (kif jien Jahweh), hence il-purtiera tat-Tempju l-Kbir, sar l-Alla tan-nies, tieghek u tieghi, thus l-element ta Mahfra inbidel.

Regarding : Ibku lilkom u lil uliedkom, zgur ma fissirx minhabba l-glied u l-gwerer. Inkella 33 sena fuq l-art ikunu ghalxejn, ghax dejjem priedka mhabba u mhafra biex imbghad ipattijilhom hekk? NO SENSE AT ALL!!! He just prophetised what was going to happen, as you can read from here http://net.bible.org/passage.php?passage=Luke+19:41-44#n12 , but by far he was not meaning that he will make sure that they get what they deserved.

Issa, bk to topic, kif qalet moonshine, we are not in a Sharia Law, gifieri l-mahfra taghna bhala kattolici ma ghandiex tkun il-mahfra tal-ligi.

PS Jekk ma tridx tiddiskuti, fair by me, pero toqghodx just tati l-opinjoni tieghek u minghalik li you got it all right, hadd ma hu njorant u hadd ma ghandu jahseb li jaf kollox. L-injorant huwa dak li minghalih li jaf kollox.

:clap: now that's a civilised way to discuss.

jien tal-opinjoni li wara dak kollu li ghamel ***qu, issa il-problema c-chain reaction tal-execution fl-iraq(chaos). l-amerikani ed jghidu li probabli al ahjar imma my bet li jibdew jarawh bhala martri lil saddam ux

dawk li gew affetwati laktar mil-attrocities ta hussein iridu li ssir public l-hanging, imma niddubita jatux kashom

scarface

28-12-2006, 04:23 PM

fuq dik il-frazi li qal dragunu ma nafx kif naqbad ninterpreta onestament ...

pero fuq is salib qal "missier ahfrilhom ax ma jafux xinhuma jaghmlu"

Beodevil

28-12-2006, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by yancho
Ghidt hafna affarijiet dragunu, pero insejt haga wahda.

Il-qasma li hemm fil-Bibbja. Il-kliem li qal San Gwann il-Battista fuq Kristu. Is-sinjal ta ghala tqactet il-purtiera tat-Tempju. Jekk domt il-muzew int, anke jien domt, so difficli li ha tmerini fuq dan li ha nghid. It-testment l-antik jati d-dehra li Alla (li sa dawk iz-zminijiet kien meqjus bhala persuna wahda mux trinita), huwa hlejqa gusta hafna u kif qal Mose fil-ligi Israeljana l-antika "ghajn ghal ghajn sinna ghal sinna" (Exodus 21:23-27).

Nixtieq infakrek li din il-quote bidila kristu u qal : " Min itik daqqa ta harta, dawwar wiccek ghan-naha l-ohra" Matthew 5:39. Dan juri l-vera mahfra, u ghalfejn gie Kristu. Biex l-idea ta Alla bhala kiefer titnehha, il-Qasma li Alla huwa tal-ftit (kif jien Jahweh), hence il-purtiera tat-Tempju l-Kbir, sar l-Alla tan-nies, tieghek u tieghi, thus l-element ta Mahfra inbidel.

Regarding : Ibku lilkom u lil uliedkom, zgur ma fissirx minhabba l-glied u l-gwerer. Inkella 33 sena fuq l-art ikunu ghalxejn, ghax dejjem priedka mhabba u mhafra biex imbghad ipattijilhom hekk? NO SENSE AT ALL!!! He just prophetised what was going to happen, as you can read from here http://net.bible.org/passage.php?passage=Luke+19:41-44#n12 , but by far he was not meaning that he will make sure that they get what they deserved.

Hekk nafhom l-affarijiet...cari u tondi kif qal Yancho.

Sa fejn naf jien Kristu talab lil Alla biex jahfer ta' dak li sar biex waslu fuq is-salib. Dak il-pjan ghal-Lhud?

Qed tghid ghal-inteligenza tan-nies haw gew u tieghek qed narha l-iktar wahda fjakka. Jekk trid titkellem fuq filosofija, huwa importanti li argument tkomplih sa l-ahhar la tkun bdejtu sakemm tinsab konkluzjoni fuq zewg nahat.

"I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing." Socrates

PeR0XiDe

28-12-2006, 05:06 PM

Yeh, u basta bil religion forum dragunu, it thread tijek xi ftit iktar minn 1000 views u hadd ma jimpurtah.

Letha|

28-12-2006, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by PeR0XiDe
Yeh, u basta bil religion forum dragunu, it thread tijek xi ftit iktar minn 1000 views u hadd ma jimpurtah.

nofs il posts tiak hatt ma jimpurtah laqqas :P :D

ki||fr0g

28-12-2006, 07:11 PM

Kemm aw nies naive! Mhux ovvja x'inhu jigri, dan kollu ilu pjanat minn wara WW2. L-Ewropej u l-Amerikani qatt ma hamluhom lil Lhud, filfatt hallew lil Hitler jaghmel li kellu jaghmel al 5 snin shah qabel ma intervenew :rolleyes: U intervenew ghax kien sar menace ghalihom wkoll.

Issa bl-Iraq fi stat ta kaos u l-Iran kontra l-Israel 110%, kull ma jridu l-Amerikani jitilqu minn hemm u jhallu l-Lhud u L-Arab jinfexxew f'xulxin iktar! U nehilsu minnhom t-tnejn :D

Brilliant strategy from George Bush and Tony Blair if you ask me

scarface

28-12-2006, 08:00 PM

jien haga nista nghid,

George Bush started a war where civilians where killed thanks to his lies and deceits .... coz after all there were no nuclear weapons..

i hold him responsible for innocent deaths as much as i hold saddam ..

so why hang saddam but not him ..

PeR0XiDe

28-12-2006, 08:01 PM

cos he's the president of the united states of america

scarface

28-12-2006, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by PeR0XiDe
cos he's the president of the united states of america

ezatt so if he is protected, then I do not agree with the hanging of saddam hussein.

PeR0XiDe

28-12-2006, 08:25 PM

uwejja man ragunmanet hekk bla sens..

tipo mela ax xi hadd ma arrestawhx talli qatel, mella ma narrestaw lil hadd..

making things equal doesn't necessarily mean making things right

TwANnY

28-12-2006, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by Dragunu
kummenti banali jirrikjedu risposti ovvji u banali :

mela just to straight ur moralities rite mr.cow:)

tahfer, u tkun paljazza ta xi hadd hija storja differenti. Tahfer lil min jiddispjacih, hemhekk tigi il mahfra iwa. Lil min ma jiddipsjacihx, il mahfra tigi biss dahka fil wicc. ha naghtik ezempju kevin ghax forsi int ghadek ma tafx, jew forsi ma mortx il lesson tal muzew sew....

Il-qrar: Id-dnubiet tieghek jinhafru biss IF U REPENT. if u dnt repent, tkun hlejt siegha minn hajtek:)

issa hares lejn saddam.... lol, does he look as he repented? ax hlief jghajjat fil-qorti apparentament ma ghamilx, anzi, iggustifika li ghamel! Would you forgive such a man?

verbum dei kev :D ... or maybe u didnt attend the first few museum lessons to know what that means either?

dont agree with this will .
u should forgive even your enemies jek tiftakar sew.
issa jek mux vera jiddispjacih dak jarah alla ima int xorta tid tahfer , jek ed niftakar sew lol

TwANnY

28-12-2006, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by yancho
Ghidt hafna affarijiet dragunu, pero insejt haga wahda.

Il-qasma li hemm fil-Bibbja. Il-kliem li qal San Gwann il-Battista fuq Kristu. Is-sinjal ta ghala tqactet il-purtiera tat-Tempju. Jekk domt il-muzew int, anke jien domt, so difficli li ha tmerini fuq dan li ha nghid. It-testment l-antik jati d-dehra li Alla (li sa dawk iz-zminijiet kien meqjus bhala persuna wahda mux trinita), huwa hlejqa gusta hafna u kif qal Mose fil-ligi Israeljana l-antika "ghajn ghal ghajn sinna ghal sinna" (Exodus 21:23-27).

Nixtieq infakrek li din il-quote bidila kristu u qal : " Min itik daqqa ta harta, dawwar wiccek ghan-naha l-ohra" Matthew 5:39. Dan juri l-vera mahfra, u ghalfejn gie Kristu. Biex l-idea ta Alla bhala kiefer titnehha, il-Qasma li Alla huwa tal-ftit (kif jien Jahweh), hence il-purtiera tat-Tempju l-Kbir, sar l-Alla tan-nies, tieghek u tieghi, thus l-element ta Mahfra inbidel.

Regarding : Ibku lilkom u lil uliedkom, zgur ma fissirx minhabba l-glied u l-gwerer. Inkella 33 sena fuq l-art ikunu ghalxejn, ghax dejjem priedka mhabba u mhafra biex imbghad ipattijilhom hekk? NO SENSE AT ALL!!! He just prophetised what was going to happen, as you can read from here http://net.bible.org/passage.php?passage=Luke+19:41-44#n12 , but by far he was not meaning that he will make sure that they get what they deserved.

Issa, bk to topic, kif qalet moonshine, we are not in a Sharia Law, gifieri l-mahfra taghna bhala kattolici ma ghandiex tkun il-mahfra tal-ligi.

PS Jekk ma tridx tiddiskuti, fair by me, pero toqghodx just tati l-opinjoni tieghek u minghalik li you got it all right, hadd ma hu njorant u hadd ma ghandu jahseb li jaf kollox. L-injorant huwa dak li minghalih li jaf kollox.

agree u btw if im not mistake the ibku lilkom u mux l ulidkom qala ax xi 30 jew 40yrs wara, hafna min gerusalem kinet imkissa mir rumani, fosthom it tempju ta gerusallem ecc

scarface

28-12-2006, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by PeR0XiDe
uwejja man ragunmanet hekk bla sens..

tipo mela ax xi hadd ma arrestawhx talli qatel, mella ma narrestaw lil hadd..

making things equal doesn't necessarily mean making things right

andek ragun..

imma dan il-haga qieghda li jekk ma toqtlux ma jigri xej ... tipo dan ma tghidx adu gvernatur u qieghed joqtol ... dan maqful go cella qieghed.

from the other pov .... jekk jinqatel, I estimate it will cost a minimum of another 20 lives ...

then why kill him ???

PeR0XiDe

28-12-2006, 09:02 PM

well techincally i agree, he can just be kept in jail, for life instead of being killed. but before you were arguing on why they shouldn't kill saddam - cos they're not doing the same to Bush, and that's what i didn't agree with

scarface

28-12-2006, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by PeR0XiDe
well techincally i agree, he can just be kept in jail, for life instead of being killed. but before you were arguing on why they shouldn't kill saddam - cos they're not doing the same to Bush, and that's what i didn't agree with

yes i know i changed argument, but i told u that u were right regarding the previous argument i.e. equally doesn't necessarily mean makings thing right

moonbeam

28-12-2006, 10:37 PM

lol @ dragunu .. thank you for enlightening me about jewish history...but its all in my religion o'level notes...probably you referred to yours too while writing that essay....

anyway, dak li ktibt fuq id disabled was just a load of crap...
Clearly, u misunderstood my argument. Jiena ghadt li allahares taqa fl argument li kull darba li xi hadd isofri, ikun qed isofri ghax irrabja l alla.....in-nies b dizabbilita, isofru, habba kawzi naturali, u mhux ghax il genituri taghhom irrabjaw l alla jew hekk. U cucata kbira li tajd li l persuni dizabbli juru hafna mhabba....juru mhabba daqs kemm juru nies normali...xej inqas u xej iktar.....

u ghall-informazzjoni tieghek....il posts tieghek huma linqas affarijit li ghandi bzonn naghmel effort biex nifhem...
tipprovax tpengi lili stupida biex ma tkunx daqshekk ovvja l-injoranza tieghek

thanks

ki||fr0g

28-12-2006, 11:04 PM

Most of you are forgetting that Saddam is being sentenced by an Iraqi court and not by a US/International court. If they want to kill him let them eh.. they surely know more of what he did to them then we do

filthy hippie

29-12-2006, 12:07 AM

saddam shall die, fullstop
good ridance to bad rubbish

ki||fr0g

30-12-2006, 02:38 AM

Saddam's letter hours before his (supposed) death

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,20990518-5001021,00.html

ki||fr0g

30-12-2006, 04:28 AM

It's done. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/29/hussein/index.html

filthy hippie

30-12-2006, 10:49 AM

were can we get our hands on the acctualy execution vids, in one of the clips they said it was all videotaped

MaRkDeLf

30-12-2006, 10:55 AM

"I call on you not to hate because hate does not leave a space for a person to be fair and it makes you blind and closes all doors of thinking and keeps away one from balanced thinking and making the right choice ...

"I also call on you not to hate the peoples of the other countries that attacked us and differentiate between the decision-makers and peoples...

"Anyone who repents - whether in Iraq or abroad - you must forgive him...

"You should know that among the aggressors, there are people who support your struggle against the invaders, and some of them volunteered for the legal defence of prisoners, including Saddam Hussein...

hmmm :/ maybe he wasn't such a bad person afterall :s :crazy?:

V0rteX

30-12-2006, 11:09 AM

:yay:

Beodevil

30-12-2006, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by MaRkDeLf
hmmm :/ maybe he wasn't such a bad person afterall :s :crazy?:

Saddam was a great Fiction writer that's for sure.

hex4

30-12-2006, 11:16 AM

http://www.reculver1.com/shit/sadend.jpg

Drowen

30-12-2006, 11:23 AM

I'd prefer Life Imprisonment... ekk amlulu pjacir

Kensci

30-12-2006, 11:30 AM

finally :)

metallic

30-12-2006, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by MaRkDeLf
hmmm :/ maybe he wasn't such a bad person afterall :s :crazy?:

No no killing 1000s of ppl is pretty bad :P

scarface

30-12-2006, 12:46 PM

ehe tajjeb... issa x hadu billi qatluh ... the killing of the innocents which will be brought about by the chain reaction

pjacir amlulu imo ... dak xih kien

bad choices , fucked up world.

Kensci

30-12-2006, 01:04 PM

_kajl.

30-12-2006, 02:07 PM

any one got the full video ? on ogrish.com till now there's only the part where they tie the rope to his neck .... i wanna see him going down lool

johnmaclane

30-12-2006, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by scarface
ehe tajjeb... issa x hadu billi qatluh ... the killing of the innocents which will be brought about by the chain reaction

pjacir amlulu imo ... dak xih kien

bad choices , fucked up world.

they killed him because the laws of the new iraqi government see his actions punishable by death, saddam is no different then any other person who has passed through a capital sentence...

if you dont like capital sentence, its your problem.

Sgt.heckler

30-12-2006, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by johnmaclane
they killed him because the laws of the new iraqi government see his actions punishable by death, saddam is no different then any other person who has passed through a capital sentence...

if you dont like capital sentence, its your problem.

you are right . but it think there are goign to be repercussions . and an increas in violence between the rival factions in iraq .

only time will tell but i have a feelign civil war is on the brink of breaking out .

Kevin

30-12-2006, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by Sgt.heckler
you are right . but it think there are goign to be repercussions . and an increas in violence between the rival factions in iraq .

only time will tell but i have a feelign civil war is on the brink of breaking out .

but if you keep thinking like that, eventually no one will be punished.

imagine I'm caught or sumthing, im a guerrilla fighter. and if I am imprisoned or killed there will be an increase in attacks. what do you do, not imprison me?

Sgt.heckler

30-12-2006, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by The_Eviler_Cow
but if you keep thinking like that, eventually no one will be punished.

imagine I'm caught or sumthing, im a guerrilla fighter. and if I am imprisoned or killed there will be an increase in attacks. what do you do, not imprison me?

your missing thw whole poitn cow . your aren tliek saddam so notoriouse

he has die hard followers still who may take this oportunity to make hima martyr to their cause

seeing it as a sign that they should fight on with more determination .

i could be wrong ofcourse and i hope i am . for the sake of the ppl still iving there.

Kevin

30-12-2006, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Sgt.heckler
your missing thw whole poitn cow . your aren tliek saddam so notoriouse

he has die hard followers still who may take this oportunity to make hima martyr to their cause

seeing it as a sign that they should fight on with more determination .

i could be wrong ofcourse and i hope i am . for the sake of the ppl still iving there.

ye i know what you mean. but I mean, they cant not execute him because they fear retaliation. That way everyone will manipulate fear to escape sentences! =)

Liquid

30-12-2006, 06:05 PM

infact they did execute him, only americans where happy though cuase europe was against at least that whats the TG said

ki||fr0g

30-12-2006, 06:21 PM

Europe (and the EU) is against the death penalty as a whole. The US supports the death penalty but that depends on which states in the US allow it.

Most Muslim countries have the death penalty and they stick to it vehemently. It was the Iraqi's Higher Court decision to give him the death sentence. Sure this may lead to repercussions, but I don't think it will matter as Iraq is already in chaos.

johnmaclane

30-12-2006, 06:39 PM

iraq is already in chaos, these problems are all the fruits if europes mismanegment of colonial teritories...

you cant have a nation split in 3 peoples which hate each other, the only way is to have a similar iron fist like saddam had or a federal government, but go explain to a bunch of uneducated people the working of a federal government...

they could make a congress in which the 3 peoples have equal say in matters, but thats just a dream in those places...

Drowen

30-12-2006, 07:08 PM

ehhh dawk in nies ma nafx meta se jiqfu. xinjoranza :/

Letha|

30-12-2006, 07:10 PM

emm xi vid qed jidendel jew ?

ki||fr0g

30-12-2006, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by johnmaclane
iraq is already in chaos, these problems are all the fruits if europes mismanegment of colonial teritories...

you cant have a nation split in 3 peoples which hate each other, the only way is to have a similar iron fist like saddam had or a federal government, but go explain to a bunch of uneducated people the working of a federal government...

they could make a congress in which the 3 peoples have equal say in matters, but thats just a dream in those places...

they're not 3 peoples, they are all Iraqis. They are of different Muslim sects

And what does Europe mismanegemnt of colonial territories have to do with Iraq?!

johnmaclane

30-12-2006, 10:23 PM

iraq as we know it today is the product (geographically) of the end of the ottoman empire and subsequent european control

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Iraq

V0rteX

31-12-2006, 12:32 AM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7532034279766935521

the vid is here, realllllllllly crappy quality :/

_kajl.

31-12-2006, 01:24 AM

lol @ vid

Pawlu

31-12-2006, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by V0rteX
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7532034279766935521

the vid is here, realllllllllly crappy quality :/

nahseb min hadu kien daqxejn hara lofl

moonbeam

31-12-2006, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by Energizer
nahseb min hadu kien daqxejn hara lofl

lol troo...

emm wos it just me or were dey all goin "waaaaa mohammeddd" wen he died?? lol

BIX

31-12-2006, 10:06 AM

boq mhux balla musulmani dejjem jghajtu XD ma jidhirx sew eh :/ mhemmx xtamel

DfraGG3r

31-12-2006, 10:13 AM

Saddam.Execution.CAM-DIEASSH0LE
Saddam.Execution.PROPER.DVDRIP-HANGUCUNT

lol@scene :confused:

PeR0XiDe

31-12-2006, 10:49 AM

lofl

G-lock

31-12-2006, 06:17 PM

according to the newspapers he took 10 mins to die .

Stewwi

31-12-2006, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by G-lock
according to the newspapers he took 10 mins to die .

normally when a person is hanged he dies instantly cos his neck snaps

just like rabbits :|

scarface

31-12-2006, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by G-lock
according to the newspapers he took 10 mins to die .

ma nafx ta pero 10mins is way too much!!!

apparti li kif qal xi hadd imut mill-ewwel ax ifaqqa ghonqu pero mux bilfors tigri jekk ma jkunx hemm bizzejjed tul

D|s

31-12-2006, 06:53 PM

he didnt take 10 mins to die...

they give 10mins time to ensure total death.

ie even if his neck didnt snap, they wud let him suffocate to death, hence the 10 mins.

G-lock

31-12-2006, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by Stewwi
normally when a person is hanged he dies instantly cos his neck snaps

just like rabbits :|

not necessarily , if his neck survives the force , the noose finishes the job via suffocation .

V0rteX

01-01-2007, 05:53 PM

http://www.b3tards.com/u/0bb7ac49b9769052ddb6/saddamsbouncingrecord.gif

MaRkDeLf

01-01-2007, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by V0rteX
http://www.b3tards.com/u/0bb7ac49b9769052ddb6/saddamsbouncingrecord.gif

loflfol hahahha kif fqajtni g1 :D

Lamento

01-01-2007, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by V0rteX
http://www.b3tards.com/u/0bb7ac49b9769052ddb6/saddamsbouncingrecord.gif loooool

Juventino

01-01-2007, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by V0rteX
http://www.b3tards.com/u/0bb7ac49b9769052ddb6/saddamsbouncingrecord.gif

hahaha il qadsa kif faqat l alla

moonbeam

01-01-2007, 06:52 PM

wahahahahaha kewwwllll!!!!

V0rteX

01-01-2007, 07:04 PM

yey for an astonomical amount of saddam flash games \o/

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/search.php?terms=saddam&kind=j&x=0&y=0

Cassius

01-01-2007, 09:59 PM

lol pwnd

V0rteX

01-01-2007, 10:19 PM

http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/michaelroston/2006/dec/30/saddam_and_the_cellphones

wow :o

BIX

01-01-2007, 11:09 PM

omfg lool vortex!

V0rteX

09-01-2007, 07:41 PM

an other final vid showing saddam after he was hanged.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-233844812484249985

"Warning: The content is extremely graphic and may be disturbing to some viewers."

guess u might be interested :confused:

moonbeam

09-01-2007, 08:50 PM

:o
jaqq
what was that red thing? :O

GeneralOneBall

09-01-2007, 08:51 PM

said the future doctor.....

V0rteX

09-01-2007, 08:57 PM

lolfolf :D

that's his soul moonbeam !!!! :fun:

moonbeam

09-01-2007, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by V0rteX
lolfolf :D

that's his soul moonbeam !!!! :fun:

F*** u :p
lol uwejjaaa wot wos itt

V0rteX

09-01-2007, 09:03 PM

lol tghid mhux il guts ta imsarnu :/

google it :p

moonbeam

09-01-2007, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by V0rteX
lol tghid mhux il guts ta imsarnu :/

google it :p

qe aqqanna.....as if im gonna google " the red thing sticking out of husseins neck after hanging"

hmm...i think its the gewza t onqu maybe :O

Cyber_D

09-01-2007, 09:36 PM

u le moonbeam dik bicca tadama :rolleyes:

Letha|

09-01-2007, 10:45 PM

mux aq allec ilsienu! torta !

metallic

09-01-2007, 10:46 PM

Issa taraw vid iehor meta jihhangjaw lil min ha il video bil mobile lol

G-lock

10-01-2007, 08:52 AM

video has been removed apparently . sad tbh coz on google i found a full porno and is still available , imma just becuase saddam has his toungue sticking out as you said , dik le !

|arK

10-01-2007, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by scarface
ehe tajjeb... issa x hadu billi qatluh ... the killing of the innocents which will be brought about by the chain reaction

pjacir amlulu imo ... dak xih kien

bad choices , fucked up world.

ye indeed nahseb jekk tmexxiha int id dinja timxi hafna ahjar :bang:

I have come to realise, alekk ma tantx adni nipostja fuq daw it threads, li jamlu xjamlu il politikanti, decizjonijiet li jiehdu, in nies DEJJEM se jsibu fuqxiex igergru,jiprotestaw, joqtlu, etc. u dejjem se jsibu xi skuza tajba jew isibu xi flaw fid decizjoni.

Fuck it, the human race will always find something to kill/complain/protest about.

And thats the plain truth. Its not the world that's fucked up, its us that fuck it up.

Kikeu ma qatluhx, u tefawh fxi habs, kienu johrogu in nies jiprotestaw biex joqtluh u in naha l-ohra johorgu xi nies jiprotestaw biex ituh Pardon u Release, u kienu johorgu it terroristi jamlu bombings u hostage camptures biex ituh release.

So irelevanti l-azla li setaw hadhu ax xorta kienet tkun hazina lol.

The irony.