Higher cost for diesel, kerosene, heating oils

[badboy]

I just heard my dad saying that diesel went sky high and could not find it on any news paper. I just found it on the times - http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080401/local/higher-cost-for-diesel-kerosene-heating-oils

Diesel went up to approx Lm0.13 per gallon.

http://www.timesofmalta.com/media/serve/20080401---loc_02.jpg

I dont think that having a diesel car these days is much of an advantage.

Just a question: I heard that these prices (diesel, petrol etvc) should have been revised in June/July. Who does the regulation of these prices? Can Enemalta just increase or decrease these prices? If there is someone who can explain how the system works pls. thanks

[G-lock]

yes i heard it too on the news an hour ago but i took it as an april fools trick , seems like its no trick at all :S

[DavE]

daw bis serjeta jewwww

[ki||fr0g]

It's no trick, Enemalta are able to change fuel prices to reflect current world trends such as oil price. Diesel is always affected negatively, now it's practically the same price as petrol. Although consider that diesel is more economic and gives you better mileage.

[GeneralOneBall]

addiet l-elezzjoni hiiiiiiiiiiiii,

to be fair last time I checked it was at 108 USD/barrel which is incredible, today it's down again to 101

[ki||fr0g]

That's the problem, Enemalta's price fixing has been criticized a lot that it doesn't reflect the actual changes in international prices.. namely that our fuel prices never go down (or very rarely) but go higher frequently.

[Drowen]

il-hedging mhux sa end of june kien? kif ola?

[yancho]

It went up 7.7 Euro Cents and 3.3 Maltese Cents .. not sure why you said Lm0.13 Badboy :|

Iva vera, prices are always on the rise, never goes down :| Its a pity I must say, since the floating has to be both sides.

[badboy]

It went up 7.7 Euro Cents and 3.3 Maltese Cents .. not sure why you said Lm0.13 Badboy :|

Iva vera, prices are always on the rise, never goes down :| Its a pity I must say, since the floating has to be both sides.

1 gallon = 4.5 litres

3c3 * 4.5 = almost .15c and i said approx 13c cause i didnt work it out.

Diesel went up to approx Lm0.13 per gallon.

[yancho]

1 gallon = 4.5 litres

3c3 * 4.5 = almost .15c and i said approx 13c cause i didnt work it out.

e ok hehe .. was basing my facts on the litres rate :) soz!

[scarface]

issa trid tara l-effett li dan se jhalli fil-pajjiz. il-buses, taxis, tal-hobz , nies li jamlu hafna deliveries etc.. etc..

[yancho]

Tal-hobz ga ghandhom problema minhabba c-cerejali. Ma narax kif id-diesel ha jaffetwahom daqshekk.

L-ohrajn hija l-istess problema li jkun hemm kull meta jghola t-transport costs hux.

[badboy]

Tal-hobz ga ghandhom problema minhabba c-cerejali. Ma narax kif id-diesel ha jaffetwahom daqshekk.

ifhem sa fejn naf jien hafna min tal hobz jigu jduru bil vanijiet, allinqas ahna hekk nixtru il hobx hafna mid drabi.

Dik hi il problema tad diesel, li se jaffettwa kollox hux.

[G-lock]

ifhem sa fejn naf jien hafna min tal hobz jigu jduru bil vanijiet, allinqas ahna hekk nixtru il hobx hafna mid drabi.

Dik hi il problema tad diesel, li se jaffettwa kollox hux.

il fran bil pitrolju jsahhnuh . ftit li xejn ghad aw li jsahhnu bil hatab .

[badboy]

il fran bil pitrolju jsahhnuh . ftit li xejn ghad aw li jsahhnu bil hatab .

li rit najd jien li tal hibz jigi wara il bieb u jdur bil van, li jahli diesel ifhem.

u se jaffetwa mhux lil tal hobz biss imma lil hafna nies li nadhom makkinarju.

ma nafx kif jahdem forn tal hobz tbh imma ma kontx qed nireferi al dik jien, al li jigi wara il bieb igib il hobz kotn qed nireferi.

[dynamited]

Yea.. these price increases will hit the industry... more than the general public.

Salespersons, big machinery, big trucks and the sort.

I hope this rise doesnt just get pushed onto the customer and actually results in more effiency to cut costs, more than anything.

Im not agreeing with the price hikes, but im seeing whats going on here. But still... with the US dollar in the sh!t... 100 dollars a barrel is not the same as 80 dollars a barrel.. when their exchange was much much better.

The americans arent going to go in recession on their own. They want to take the global economy with them.

[G-lock]

li rit najd jien li tal hibz jigi wara il bieb u jdur bil van, li jahli diesel ifhem.

u se jaffetwa mhux lil tal hobz biss imma lil hafna nies li nadhom makkinarju.

ma nafx kif jahdem forn tal hobz tbh imma ma kontx qed nireferi al dik jien, al li jigi wara il bieb igib il hobz kotn qed nireferi.

naf badboy x ridt tghid u inkludejt ukoll l ispejjez li jiehu biex jghamlu il hobz . dawn il fran li jahdmu bil pitrolju tiswijom hafna flus apparti id diesel biex isuqu il vannijiet bid deliveries . daw kolla spejjez li irridu nhallsu ghalijom ahna il consumaturi .

[Kensci]

Ma joqodux bi kwietom sa kemm jaghmlu id diesel ma jibqax worth it li tuzah :<

[wolverine]

pirtolju allewh ghax tal buses kienu jhalltu l pirtolju mad diesel, issa diesel aktar worthed mil pitrolju gie lol

[billy]

i for one don't miss the kerosene smelling air from buses

[filthy hippie]

why/thx to who did it go up? been cut off from the news world lately

[wolverine]

why/thx to who did it go up? been cut off from the news world lately

thx - to gonzi and friends :D
why - dunno, he knows

really i dont know, from what i read the oil prices went down

[scarface]

thx - to gonzi and friends :D
why - dunno, he knows

really i dont know, from what i read the oil prices went down

surcharge gieli tbaxxiet e ha nghidu kollox

[Screwhead]

thx - to gonzi and friends :D
why - dunno, he knows

really i dont know, from what i read the oil prices went down

Kemm int bla sens. Ghax Gonzi qed jolli il prezzijiet taz-zejt ux..

U jekk trid tparla ahjar tajd kollox ux, dejjem ahjar tnehhi surcharge umbad idahhal iktar taxxi biex tikumpensa aliha! Kif kien amel xi hadd btaxxa ohra. -_-

[PeR0XiDe]

thx - to gonzi and friends :D
why - dunno, he knows

really i dont know, from what i read the oil prices went down


Nice mohh maluq purcinell

[badboy]

i think hes being sacastic ta :) i mean its inevetable that prices of fuel would rise but i dont know why they rose now when they had to be revised in june.

[GeneralOneBall]

[QUOTE=PeR0XiDe;260072]Nice mohh maluq purcinell[/QUOT

touccchhhhhyyyyyyy !! :o

[scarface]

U jekk trid tparla ahjar tajd kollox ux,

int ma tghidx kollox imma hux !!

[cotroler]

haha sakem ma jollux petrol mux problema alija :P

[wolverine]

kont sarcastic, darb ohra nikteb li joke lool

imma li tinfexxu tajjru bla sens jew purcinell sinjal li dejjqitkom il haga

Kemm int bla sens. Ghax Gonzi qed jolli il prezzijiet taz-zejt ux..
zejt rahas milli qalu, allura l prezz tad diesel ma gholiex minhabba zejt alekk edt MA NAFX ala ghola

[G-lock]

kont sarcastic, darb ohra nikteb li joke lool

imma li tinfexxu tajjru bla sens jew purcinell sinjal li dejjqitkom il haga


zejt rahas milli qalu, allura l prezz tad diesel ma gholiex minhabba zejt alekk edt MA NAFX ala ghola

kif hassejt meta ghettilkom tal fran tal hobz , se jghollu l prezz tal hobz issa . tistennija .

[ki||fr0g]

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080501/local/duesel-price-rises-again

yoohoo!!!

[DavE]

:o

tejd xahrejn ohra jergaw iziduh jewww :/

[GeneralOneBall]

:o

tejd xahrejn ohra jergaw iziduh jewww :/

flimkien kollox possibli

[PostHuMaN]

nice LOL

[Drowen]

flimkien kollox possibli

LOL

[Cereal Killer]

flimkien kollox possibli

ye i think when they said "everything can happen", they really meant everything lol

[badboy]

why is only diesel getting higher? why not also petrol? is there some reason for it?
Can it be because diesel causes more polution or it has nothing to do with it?

[scarface]

i guess it is a strategy to make up for other fuels, with the excuse of the environment :/

[Polter]

cost per barrel of fuel increased well over 100dollars/one now. i wonder why the other fuels didn't though

[dynamited]

The gov is making a bad move on this price increase. Businesses are already suffering increases in costs over frieght.... cause of fuel surcharges abroad.... and now locally... suppliers are going to increase their price... to make up for the new costs.

You know how a business will solve this? Simple.... increase the price of its products so that it makes up for the `fuel expences` its delivery and sales staff will incurr. PLUS now that the `freeze` on prices cause of the euro is over..... an even better reason to round up. Not to brag... but being a graphic designer... i see this for myself.... the figures on pricelists and catalogues are SOOO rounded up... that I double check with the client sometimes. Only to get a reply ... 'tghid mhux ser jorhos'.

Bad move Gonzi. Bad move. We`re going to hit a recession soon enough.... property sales are already dwindling.... so wait for it. People with forsight are already getting ready.

Hint Hint... some guy wrote a letter on the Times to `query` how much of our money deposited at local banks is actually `secured`. Just in case there`s a run for the money at the tellers.

[Kensci]

why is only diesel getting higher? why not also petrol? is there some reason for it?
Can it be because diesel causes more polution or it has nothing to do with it?

As long as the government sees road users as an easy target to milk for tax we will have to keep paying.
The arguement the government use is that we are polluting the planet and so we must pay tax!!! A Boing 747 will use more fuel, and cause more pollution, in one take off than your car will use in your entire life, but the airline only pay a fraction of the tax we pay per litre.
The one thing you can be sure of is that this government or the next will never lower fuel tax. They need to cover the lost revenue from everyone giving up smoking!!!

***quoted from another source but it is the best answer....

[ki||fr0g]

Fuel prices are increasing world wide.. the only way to combat them is to invest in renewable energy sources and nuclear power plants which very few countries have done up to now. That also means we stop paying countries that support terrorism like Iran for their oil, and help the environment as well.

[johnmaclane]

Fuel prices are increasing world wide.. the only way to combat them is to invest in renewable energy sources and nuclear power plants which very few countries have done up to now. That also means we stop paying countries that support terrorism like Iran for their oil, and help the environment as well.

bingo

[wolverine]

the only way to combat them is to invest in renewable energy sources and nuclear power plants which very few countries have done up to now.

dont worry they are on it, they have a plan and its a BIG one.....they've been planning it since 1987 so some mini-nuclear reactor is on its way and will be announced soon

[cabb.]

if it will be announced soon, how do you know about it? :P

[Drowen]

I heard the government is ready to invest in wind power...... and as usual, birzebbuga was one of the possibilities.......... i dont know if its true

[Drowen]

The gov is making a bad move on this price increase. Businesses are already suffering increases in costs over frieght.... cause of fuel surcharges abroad.... and now locally... suppliers are going to increase their price... to make up for the new costs.

You know how a business will solve this? Simple.... increase the price of its products so that it makes up for the `fuel expences` its delivery and sales staff will incurr. PLUS now that the `freeze` on prices cause of the euro is over..... an even better reason to round up. Not to brag... but being a graphic designer... i see this for myself.... the figures on pricelists and catalogues are SOOO rounded up... that I double check with the client sometimes. Only to get a reply ... 'tghid mhux ser jorhos'.

Bad move Gonzi. Bad move. We`re going to hit a recession soon enough.... property sales are already dwindling.... so wait for it. People with forsight are already getting ready.

Hint Hint... some guy wrote a letter on the Times to `query` how much of our money deposited at local banks is actually `secured`. Just in case there`s a run for the money at the tellers.

too true mate. i work in accounts. i've been seeing rounding ups since late december. some of the items i got used to increased rapidly and became more expensive. the government did shit about the security of prices. i cant believe they've been elected again really...

[Cereal Killer]

i cant believe they've been elected again really...

ux :fool:

[yancho]

I heard the government is ready to invest in wind power...... and as usual, birzebbuga was one of the possibilities.......... i dont know if its true

int biss smajta din? lol kienet fil-programm elettorali

too true mate. i work in accounts. i've been seeing rounding ups since late december. some of the items i got used to increased rapidly and became more expensive. the government did shit about the security of prices. i cant believe they've been elected again really...

did u report these items to 154? if no then its your fault :) The government was rewarded as the ost government that prepared the country for Euro.

no price couldn't go up without justification until may freeze. if u saw these prices rising - and you didn't report - don't blame the govt for ur lack of interest.

what would YOU have done o bright mind?

[scarface]

did u report these items to 154? if no then its your fault :) The government was rewarded as the ost government that prepared the country for Euro.

no price couldn't go up without justification until may freeze. if u saw these prices rising - and you didn't report - don't blame the govt for ur lack of interest.

what would YOU have done o bright mind?


agreed

[ki||fr0g]

Linja 154 was quite a gimmick.. I know someone who phoned to complain that GO and Vodafone rounded in their favour on the cost of SMS, and they told him "heqq xi tridna naghmlu". Prosit eh.

Govt prepared well mostly with the FAIR initiative and price freeze and well, people aren't stupid and many Maltese are careful about their money, so we naturally kept a lookout for prices.

Anyway prices are going up globally now especially food and fuel so we're bound to see increases everywhere.

[Drowen]

int biss smajta din? lol kienet fil-programm elettorali



did u report these items to 154? if no then its your fault :) The government was rewarded as the ost government that prepared the country for Euro.

no price couldn't go up without justification until may freeze. if u saw these prices rising - and you didn't report - don't blame the govt for ur lack of interest.

what would YOU have done o bright mind?

lol skuzi ta, int tipretendi li fix-xol ta accounts se noqod niraporta s-suppliers li andom prezzijiet hzina? dak andu jkun kontroll tal-gvern fl-opinjoni tiej u mux noqod najdlu jien. kumpaniji kbar tnejku bih fwiccu l-gvern u ma seta jamel xej ax mandux guts......

anyway u fuq tal-windfarms good job e. jitfawom birzebbuga u tinqala xi wahda sejra, zgur mux forsi. birzebbuga ma tiflahx al aktar zibel li jogbu jitfa l-gvern.

[yancho]

hemm 14 il sit imsemmi .. qed jaraw liem hu l-ahjar.

ifhimni nasal nemmen aktar il Bank Ewropew u l-istatistika li tohrog minn Brussel milli lilek tbh. So nibqa nghid li rounding of figures mhux li kien hemm hafna. Li stajt tghamel tigbed l-attenzjoni tas-suppliers ukoll - wara kollox dak xoghlok .. qed tauditja (qed tkun referee) tal-accounts .. higher sales just ghax illegally higher prices huwa serq.

Ghandkom idea zbaljata tal-Gvern ta .. tahsbu li ha jghamel KOLLOX?

[wolverine]

believe it or not statistics in malta are always fucked up, always revisions, shocks etc
and many times, business will report things so that they're better off, so prices might not be reflecting reality

[scarface]

Price of oil passes $122 a barrel


The price of a barrel of oil has passed the $122 mark for the first time.

US light crude hit a fresh high of $122.73 in New York trading, while London's Brent crude has passed $120 for the first time, hitting $120.99.


Oil has been rising because of fears over possible supply disruptions in Nigeria and in northern Iraq and predictions of higher US demand.


Economists warn higher oil prices are continuing to drag on global economies already weakened by the credit crunch.

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Oil has continued to hit record levels since it reached $100 a barrel for the first time in January 2008.
It has risen by 25% in the last four months and by about 400% in the last seven years.




We have to expect constant and continuous increases in fuel prices. I wonder how Sant was going to deal with such a world crisis with his 50% reduction in surcharge.

For people who read the thread about the "Iran War", tensions between US and Iran will lead to a $200 per barrel easily. The more time passes, the more such a situation looks inevitable.

[hex4]

dis sena andu jil*** $140

issa taraw.

[yancho]

hex .. x'140 .. KELLU BZONN!!!!!!!! .. 200 is the projected figure :(

[hex4]

hex .. x'140 .. KELLU BZONN!!!!!!!! .. 200 is the projected figure :(

:|

jien kont smajta fuq t taljan ifhem.. ma nafx issa :/

[yancho]

regat giet revised min opac not long ago

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7387203.stm
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/natural_resources/article3845113.ece
http://www.finfacts.com/irishfinancenews/article_101355.shtml
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/05/07/cnoil107.xml

friggin scary prices e :\

[cabb.]

ouch ee, ha nibda nsuq bit tajjeb jien lejn lahhar tas sena, 2008 biex nidghi biss ha tigi nahseb :P

[yancho]

lol skuzi ta, int tipretendi li fix-xol ta accounts se noqod niraporta s-suppliers li andom prezzijiet hzina? dak andu jkun kontroll tal-gvern fl-opinjoni tiej u mux noqod najdlu jien. kumpaniji kbar tnejku bih fwiccu l-gvern u ma seta jamel xej ax mandux guts......



Ara xqed jghamel il-Gvern :


The European Commission gave a certificate of Excellency to Malta, when out of the 27 member states of the European Union, Malta was the country which kept its stabilised prices all throughout the 12 months ending March. In a report published a few hours ago, the European Commission said that for a whole year until last March, Malta was the first in holding stabilised prices with an inflation of 1.5%. Malta was followed by Holland by 1.7% and Denmark 2%.


Certifikat bizejjed ghalik li l-Gvern mexa sew fuq l-Ewro?

[scarface]

World oil prices have reached a new peak near $124 a barrel.
The rises came despite a US government report on Wednesday showing a surprise increase in US crude and petrol stocks.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7389482.stm

[PostHuMaN]

God Save America

[scarface]

Oil prices hit a record high above $135 a barrel on Thursday, having rocketed by more than $4 a barrel on Wednesday. US light, sweet crude for July delivery reached $135.09, taking its gain for the year so far above 40%.

[hex4]

alternative energy!!

[FrodoLives]

nahseb bdin rrata mux alternative energy mma no energy at all :(

[dynamited]

Imbasta the americans went to war in Iraq for the oil.... they werent even capable of finishing the job.

Global Recession..... coming to a cinema near you.

[scarface]

Imbasta the americans went to war in Iraq for the oil.... they werent even capable of finishing the job.

Global Recession..... coming to a cinema near you.

Imo main reason why America went to war was because Saddam Hussein in 2000 started dealing oil in Euros. That was a blow to America's economy but not to the world's economy. The falling US dollar driven up oil prices as they have to gain to compensate for a slide in the currency.

However there are reasons which do not have anything to do with America-Iraq

> China's oil demand grew significantly since 2003. More demand, less supply = higher prices! China overtook Japan as the world's second-largest consumer of oil in 2003 and is closing in on the US, with demand for oil growing at about 15% a year.

> The assassination of the former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto increased oil prices

> The conflict between Israel and hezbollah increased oil prices. After Israel launched attacks on Lebanon, oil prices reached a new high of $78 per barrel.

> Violence in Nigeria and Algeria

> Iran is now dealing oil in Euros as well ..

... there are many factors which is leading to this increase.

[badboy]

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080622/local/fuel-prices-rise-from-tomorrow

Nice!!!!

[G-lock]

rega gholla il petrol etc lol , qedin se f dal pajjiz. nsomma jalla jibqa sejjer hekk ha nghidlek .

[Screwhead]

Bhal li kieku Malta biss qed jola il petrol nahseb......

[cabb.]

worldwide man ola :( cryyyyyyy

[Corrosion]

Don't thini oil is ever meant to get cheaper - it will get expensive the more time passes - there's a limit to it on how much we can use anyways :)

[cabb.]

wtb more hybrid energy usage, fuq karozzi u kollox tbh... solar qed jigi iktar u iktar poplari, issa hemm fuel cells jew whatever, u karozzi li qed johorgu issa huma fuel economic iktar + juzaw electric, making them hybrid msomma... dik nahseb soluzjoni wahda minnhom li mad dinja kolla trid tibda tigi uzata....

[metallic]

wtb more hybrid energy usage, fuq karozzi u kollox tbh... solar qed jigi iktar u iktar poplari, issa hemm fuel cells jew whatever, u karozzi li qed johorgu issa huma fuel economic iktar + juzaw electric, making them hybrid msomma... dik nahseb soluzjoni wahda minnhom li mad dinja kolla trid tibda tigi uzata....

Lol il bierah fuq il season premiere ta top gear, qablu Prius u BMW ghal fuel ecenomy u normal road speeds il BMW m3 kella iktar miles to the gallon milli il prius ;)

[dynamited]

This fuel crap is getting out of hand.... and the only people making money are the speculators on the international markets.

There ISNT a shortage of oil supply. There ISNT too much demand over supply. This is all BS. The only `fuel product` which isnt being satisfied in the market is jet fuel... and thats all.

The price per barrel is spiralling out of control cause people arent taking note of this fact and yet whole countries are losing track of wtf is going on. We're leaving speculators BS about the price... The more they speculate... the higher it goes.... and thats in their own interest cause they get a percentage.

Local media have already mentioned that the energy surcharge is going to hit 100% soon. This is ridiculous. Get ready for higher rates on everything.... cause companies dont have 'such' profit margins to sustain these increases.

[G-lock]

Bhal li kieku Malta biss qed jola il petrol nahseb......


tider li ma thallas il kontijiet tad dawl screwhead , nahseb missierek qal hurray :S kif semahha din l ahbar.

[Screwhead]

tider li ma thallas il kontijiet tad dawl screwhead , nahseb missierek qal hurray :S kif semahha din l ahbar.

Kontijit tad-dawl le ma nhalasx.. pero petrol al karozza jin irid inhalsu - u ma ngergirx ax naf li il petrol qed jola kulimkien u malta mhiex specjali. Min kif titkellem int qisek andek soluzjoni ghal dil problema... ghax ma taqsamix mana ...

[S8nINSIDE]

tider li ma thallas il kontijiet tad dawl screwhead , nahseb missierek qal hurray :S kif semahha din l ahbar.

Kontijit tad-dawl le ma nhalasx.. pero petrol al karozza jin irid inhalsu - u ma ngergirx ax naf li il petrol qed jola kulimkien u malta mhiex specjali. Min kif titkellem int qisek andek soluzjoni ghal dil problema... ghax ma taqsamix mana ...


we have a game!

[Corrosion]

I'm not good in this stuff so this might be stupid but, is oil reproducible in any other way apart from natural causes? :o

[S8nINSIDE]

if u happen to come by some fossils and an extra million years.. sure y not

[Kensci]

GHal dawk li jiehdu buzz jikomplejnaw Malta hija it-tieni pajjiz li ghanda fuel irhis. Ghandna xorti jigi isusidjat mill-gvern!!

U jien inwahhal biss f'din il bicca tal-global warming...Just iridu jaqtaw l-ammont ta pollution. Hudu mil l-ingilterra, fethu kumpanji tal-car sharing bix ikun hemm inqas karozzi fit-toroq.

[S8nINSIDE]

GHal dawk li jiehdu buzz jikomplejnaw Malta hija it-tieni pajjiz li ghanda fuel irhis. Ghandna xorti jigi isusidjat mill-gvern!!




cert man? ax lahhar darba rajt mappa tal fuel price, u andikun venezuela jibda min xi 19c (USD) per barrel jew ekk..

[Polter]

cert man? ax lahhar darba rajt mappa tal fuel price, u andikun venezuela jibda min xi 19c (USD) per barrel jew ekk..

dawk il fuel taghhom imhallat ma lalcohol minalija, igifieri jigi rhas + li ma tafx xi kwalita hu

[Kensci]

cert man? ax lahhar darba rajt mappa tal fuel price, u andikun venezuela jibda min xi 19c (USD) per barrel jew ekk..

sry insejt dettal.....flewropa.....

[G-lock]

Min kif titkellem int qisek andek soluzjoni ghal dil problema... ghax ma taqsamix mana ...


xghandu xjaqsam dudu ? x soluzzjoni tridni jkolli jekk se jghola id dawl u petrol ?

[cabb.]

dawk il fuel taghhom imhallat ma lalcohol minalija, igifieri jigi rhas + li ma tafx xi kwalita hu

tibda itijha 20 euros u flixkun jack l karroza fil gimgha :P lol

[S8nINSIDE]

tibda itijha 20 euros u flixkun jack l karroza fil gimgha :P lol

bxej tigik.. 20 eur + 16 eur (flixkun jack give or take)

kurzita.. min irid iwiegeb iwiegeb, xmagna andkom, diesel jew petrol, u kemm ittuwa fil gima..

[TwANnY]

jjin kelli 1.8tdi, 10euroos wekly jek ma nafasx hafna. u kont nuzxahha hafna

[Kensci]

tarawx fil gima kemm tatuwa, araw kemm taghmlu milage bija...

jien 20 euros every 370-400km..1.5 diesel.. mhux dejjem listess skond kemm nafsila u skond kemm nixel l ac.

[DfraGG3r]

tarawx fil gima kemm tatuwa, araw kemm taghmlu milage bija...

jien 20 euros every 370-400km..1.5 diesel.. mhux dejjem listess skond kemm nafsila u skond kemm nixel l ac.

Nahseb et tara naqa kbir ta... 250miles b 20 euros wisq

[Screwhead]

1000cc - Toyota (Tal-Japan)

20Euros amilt qisu gimatej u nofs - nuzaha kulljum jew kwazi kuljum.

Ghadni kif imlejta lbirah , issa nati kas kemm amilt KM.

[Kensci]

Nahseb et tara naqa kbir ta... 250miles b 20 euros wisq

dak average gieli 350, gieli iktar, mhux dejjem listess. qabel bit toyota 1.5 diesel kont namel 220km Lm5.

[DavE]

qat ma kkalkulajt kem namel milage pero min h attard al marsa u lura u min h attard al san giljan ... 20 euros xi 4 ijiem namel ... ghada intiha 10 euros u nikkalkula l milage

[S8nINSIDE]

jien andi 1.5 diesel, nitla l mosta u lura kuljum (xol) u jew nohrog filaxija fost il gima u weekends sliema jew ekk (noqod qormi) intija 10 eur fil gima, darba kkalkulajt kemm namel milage imma nsejt..

[G-lock]

anzi lha qt imlejta sa ruh omma l karozza xi 4 tijiem ilu , iffrankajt xi haga ejja :D

[badboy]

1.9 Diesel karozza ta 1991

Ntija approx €40 u namel 600Km. Issa ovjament andi ma tajtix min mindu ola so dejjem se jibda jonqos.

4 snin ilu niftakar intija Lm8 u namel listess milage :(

[Drowen]

jin ghandi 1.2 petrol u ntija €20 per 220km... imma tort tiej

[Letha|]

550km b 45E isuzu ta 88 mobbi sa ruh ommu bil piz u ekk :D mawx ahjar minnom dawk :P

[scarface]

jien ford escort 18 diesel b 25 euros ittini 300km... ma nafx issa ttinix inqas habba li oghla imma l-ahhar li kkalkulajt f dicembru

[BravoDGr8]

Jien golf 1.4 petrol 1999, ittini xi 120km al kull €10 qisu, imma insib hafna traffic jien filodu eh, itellef mux hazin :(

[Drowen]

Jien golf 1.4 petrol 1999, ittini xi 120km al kull €10 qisu, imma insib hafna traffic jien filodu eh, itellef mux hazin :(

l-bravo tieghek 14 petrol? se ngib bravo 16 imma nahseb se jkolli nitghallem nsuq hafna bilmod u nahsiblu kmini lol :confused:

[S8nINSIDE]

l-bravo tieghek 14 petrol? se ngib bravo 16 imma nahseb se jkolli nitghallem nsuq hafna bilmod u nahsiblu kmini lol :confused:

his nickname is bravo.. his car is a golf :p

[Drowen]

lool ok ... *damn*

[BravoDGr8]

l-bravo tieghek 14 petrol? se ngib bravo 16 imma nahseb se jkolli nitghallem nsuq hafna bilmod u nahsiblu kmini lol :confused:

emm....kieku minnek ma nixxi xej bravo ta king, ax ha tispicca bkirja tal beati pawli mal petrol! specjalment issa li dejjem qieghed joghla!

[Drowen]

emm....kieku minnek ma nixxi xej bravo ta king, ax ha tispicca bkirja tal beati pawli mal petrol! specjalment issa li dejjem qieghed joghla!

from experience imma? ax jin naf min andu 16 petrol bravo u jajd li ma jahlilux jekk jsuq ta nies...

[BravoDGr8]

from experience imma? ax jin naf min andu 16 petrol bravo u jajd li ma jahlilux jekk jsuq ta nies...

man, difficli ma tafsilix il hin kollu, xi darba kultant ha tafas, normali il haga. u mux min esperjenza personali imma kelli 2 min shabi nehhewa al listess haga il karozza....petrol...

[S8nINSIDE]

drowen jien nissuggerilek tistenna naqa ha tara xse jigri bit taxxi, i mean emission tax etc..

[DavE]

10 euros - 140km u suqt bil mod

[cabb.]

10 euros - 140km u suqt bil mod

int issuq bilmod? qas nemmen

[Drowen]

emm....kieku minnek ma nixxi xej bravo ta king, ax ha tispicca bkirja tal beati pawli mal petrol! specjalment issa li dejjem qieghed joghla!

speaking from experience pero? ax jin naf min kellu bravo u qal li tipo jekk ssuq ta nies tahli inqas milli qed nahli issa (bi 1.2 u nsuq mux hazin)

[G-lock]

avolja mghandux x jaqsam ma dan it thread imma ha nghidilkom gix affarijiet .

l ewwel haga jekk trid toqod lura fuq fuel consumption trid issuq bil mod , teqleb inqas gears u issuq fuq il gears il kbar 4th , 5th .
tfittex toroq bla traffic (xinu?????) u toroq main roads fejn it triq tkun itwal u b inqas kantunieri. (toroq zghar tahli iktar fuel peress li trid taqla bil 1st,2nd il hin kollu)

magna kbira se galek issuq. fittex karozza b magna zghira 1100cc jew diesel 1300cc

fiat bravo tahli iwa, il magna mghamula b mod racing, jekk tghafasa fuel injectors se jifthu ghal speed.

[Drowen]

avolja mghandux x jaqsam ma dan it thread imma ha nghidilkom gix affarijiet .

l ewwel haga jekk trid toqod lura fuq fuel consumption trid issuq bil mod , teqleb inqas gears u issuq fuq il gears il kbar 4th , 5th .
tfittex toroq bla traffic (xinu?????) u toroq main roads fejn it triq tkun itwal u b inqas kantunieri. (toroq zghar tahli iktar fuel peress li trid taqla bil 1st,2nd il hin kollu)

magna kbira se galek issuq. fittex karozza b magna zghira 1100cc jew diesel 1300cc

fiat bravo tahli iwa, il magna mghamula b mod racing, jekk tghafasa fuel injectors se jifthu ghal speed.

g-lock nifmek. pero ha najdlek haga. naf min andu karozzi magna 2.0 u jtuwa inqas minn Lm10 f'gima ax jsuqu sew (kif spjegajt int)... jien 1.2 ntija EUR 20 kull 3-5 days... bej bravo u l-karozza tiej hemm qabza enormi, gifiri jekk nara li fuel consumption zdidet "ftit" kuntent. issa naraw :/

[S8nINSIDE]

low revs, high gears.. that's the economic way..

punt wiehed nahseb andek zball glock, magna zejra (1100cc) tispicca tahli iktar ax trid tirrevja iktar biex taqla, til*** certu speed. trid issib bilanc bejn magna kbira u low speeding. 1500cc diesel sibta bellezza jien, b 10Eur fil gima bomba imma jista jkun ukoll li t triq tijaj hi dejjem kontra t traffic (ax xol i mean)

[Liquid]

g-lock nifmek. pero ha najdlek haga. naf min andu karozzi magna 2.0 u jtuwa inqas minn Lm10 f'gima ax jsuqu sew (kif spjegajt int)... jien 1.2 ntija EUR 20 kull 3-5 days... bej bravo u l-karozza tiej hemm qabza enormi, gifiri jekk nara li fuel consumption zdidet "ftit" kuntent. issa naraw :/

ma tistawx taraw hekk itija lm10 fil gima imma qal kemm il km, ax int forsi ittija lm8 (euros 20) al 100km u itija lm10 al 100 xorta

hekk trid tara kemm tahli

[G-lock]

punt wiehed nahseb andek zball glock, magna zejra (1100cc) tispicca tahli iktar ax trid tirrevja iktar biex taqla, til*** certu speed. (ax xol i mean)

mhux neccessarjament. certu karozzi illum huma tal landa , pjanci irqaq u hfief allura il magna mhux se tbghati hafna. trid tqis ukoll ic cilindragg . jekk 1100cc ovvjament irid iktar fuel biex icaqlaq il piston min example maruti 800cc u it tnejn jimxu l istess speed tista tghid.


insejt nghid ukoll li aircondition fil karozza tuza 1/3 mil fuel consumption.

jiena clio 1100cc ghandi . vera ma tahlix ha nghidlek . l ahhar li tajta full tank approx 50 euros xi xahar u nofs ilu , u nuza kulljum ax xol u lura min swatar sal floriana u xi qadi l hawn u l hemm. gieli soqt mid dar sax xol neqleb il gears darba u nibqa bil 5th , it tela tal GHQ bis tfottini ghax wieqfa.

[Drowen]

ma tistawx taraw hekk itija lm10 fil gima imma qal kemm il km, ax int forsi ittija lm8 (euros 20) al 100km u itija lm10 al 100 xorta

hekk trid tara kemm tahli

20 euros per 200-220km....

naf min andu 1.6 u jamel iktar

[ki||fr0g]

Petrol cars with small engines (1.1l below) tend to be less fuel efficient because they have to make that extra "effort" to reach speeds that the same car with a 1.4l engine would reach easily.. on the other hand going 1.6l and over you're going to waste more cos you'll definately push it a bit more. Age matters as well, engines older than 10 years are very inefficient..

Best to have is a diesel 1.5-2.0l imo, very fuel efficient and still powerfull. I spend around Eur30 every 1.5/2 weeks (1.9l turbo diesel) and do almost 400km with A/C turned on most of the time.. and I don't drive slow. A bigger diesel also means the A/C won't affect power and thus doesn't effect efficiency much.

Although nothing beats a 2.0l petrol engine and above for pleasurable driving!

[BIX]

jien andi 0.9 petrol, u b'20 euros namel ~300km, igifieri trid tkun taf kif tiffranka mhux mill-karozza biss tigi ;)

l-ideja hi li kemm jekk tista titfa free itfa u jekk tista zzommu 5th zommu

[scarface]

Bhala wahda mis soluzzjonijiet al dan iz-zieda fil-prezz tal-fuel, imo il-gvern missu jamel teaching sessions ta' kif wiehed andu jsuq biex jiffranka l-fuel. Bazikament bhal ma qal glock. Jekk kulhadd jiffranka 10% per week consumption bil-mod ta' kif isuq, dejjem improvement. Hafna nies l-affarijiet li qal glock ma jafuhomx. Ezempju ftit ilu iltqajt ma wiehed li skond hu iktar ma tuza gearijiet zghar (ez. 2nd) inqas tahli ... ax zghir ! Mur fehmu!

[Liquid]

Bhala wahda mis soluzzjonijiet al dan iz-zieda fil-prezz tal-fuel, imo il-gvern missu jamel teaching sessions ta' kif wiehed andu jsuq biex jiffranka l-fuel. Bazikament bhal ma qal glock. Jekk kulhadd jiffranka 10% per week consumption bil-mod ta' kif isuq, dejjem improvement. Hafna nies l-affarijiet li qal glock ma jafuhomx. Ezempju ftit ilu iltqajt ma wiehed li skond hu iktar ma tuza gearijiet zghar (ez. 2nd) inqas tahli ... ax zghir ! Mur fehmu!

dawk huma affarijeit li suppsot titallem meta tkun tiela at test u mhux jaghmel lessons il gvern, la andek il licenzja suppsot taf li aktar ma tafas aktar tahli (common sens imma insoma), xandek tamel jekk tkun ed tiskidja, liem gearijeit trid tuza u ala u nejk.

tantu xorta jithallsu tajjeb il learners

[unrealfighter]

Bhala wahda mis soluzzjonijiet al dan iz-zieda fil-prezz tal-fuel, imo il-gvern missu jamel teaching sessions ta' kif wiehed andu jsuq biex jiffranka l-fuel. Bazikament bhal ma qal glock. Jekk kulhadd jiffranka 10% per week consumption bil-mod ta' kif isuq, dejjem improvement. Hafna nies l-affarijiet li qal glock ma jafuhomx. Ezempju ftit ilu iltqajt ma wiehed li skond hu iktar ma tuza gearijiet zghar (ez. 2nd) inqas tahli ... ax zghir ! Mur fehmu!

il gvern imissu inaqqas kemm idahal flus mil fuel....over 50% taxxa dak li thallas fuel....imma ax Tonio Fenech ma jehodomx id-dar il-flus (kif qal fuq Bondi+) mhemmx ghalfejn inaqsu t-taxxa.

[scarface]

il gvern imissu inaqqas kemm idahal flus mil fuel....over 50% taxxa dak li thallas fuel....imma ax Tonio Fenech ma jehodomx id-dar il-flus (kif qal fuq Bondi+) mhemmx ghalfejn inaqsu t-taxxa.

zbaljat, l-eu ma tridx li l-gvern inehhi t-taxxa.

[GeneralOneBall]

nahsbe billi jnehhi it ttaxxa jkun qe djaghmel zball, xorta eahd aha jkollu jgib it taxxa minn x'imkine iehor, uek il poplu ma jindunax li hemm problema taz zejt.
Hemm problema li m'ahniex lesit alija issa foris jibdew jaraw kif se jgibu energija differwenti u jnaqqsu miz zejt

[Drowen]

facli nghidu tnehhi taxxa imma m'ijix. taxxa la qedha emm ma titnehhix, imma tigi replaced. gifiri taxxa ximkin ihor zgur tidhol, ax r-revenue tal-gvern ma jridx jonqos zgur... din tar-registration tax listess... tistennewx mirakli bhal ma hafna qedin jamlu...

fuq li adt inti scarface teaching lessons hija xi haga too much nahseb. kull ma jrid jamel: short advert on pbs (stazzjon tal-gvern), u some spots on the radio... would not cost more than 5000 euro for sure...

[Liquid]

facli nghidu tnehhi taxxa imma m'ijix. taxxa la qedha emm ma titnehhix, imma tigi replaced. gifiri taxxa ximkin ihor zgur tidhol, ax r-revenue tal-gvern ma jridx jonqos zgur... din tar-registration tax listess... tistennewx mirakli bhal ma hafna qedin jamlu...

fuq li adt inti scarface teaching lessons hija xi haga too much nahseb. kull ma jrid jamel: short advert on pbs (stazzjon tal-gvern), u some spots on the radio... would not cost more than 5000 euro for sure...

ma nsitax nifhem qala ghandu jiehu hsieba il-gvern di tal lessons, dawn huma affarijeit li int suppsot tigi infurmat bijhom meta tkun qed titallem il karozza u qabel iggib il licenzja u mhux wara, imbad ahajr ibbidlu dak il "written" test li ghandhom u jaghmlu wihied sura ta nies mhux listess domanda jghamila bxi 10 moddi differenti u dejjem ittih listess answer

[scarface]

fuq li adt inti scarface teaching lessons hija xi haga too much nahseb. kull ma jrid jamel: short advert on pbs (stazzjon tal-gvern), u some spots on the radio... would not cost more than 5000 euro for sure...

forsi andek ragun ifhem too much, imma fl-ahhar mill-ahhar l-importanti li jwassal messagg

kif qal liquid dawn huma affarijiet li suppost titallem meta tmur al licenzja , imma niftakar meta tallimt jien lil learner ghidtlu "jekk insuq bil-5th bi ftit gas nahli l-inqas u? " u hatafni u qalli "mux ahjar titallem ssuq l-ewwel u mbaghad dawk l-affarijiet titallimhom wahdek" lol

idejalment isaqsuha fit test u , pero ma jidirlix li jsaqsuha.

[Drowen]

sa fej naf jien driving lessons jalmuk kif ssuq u mux kif tifranka l-petrol. jin kin jajdli xi affarijiet lemm u law vera imma wara kollox jin tallimt wahdi kif nifranka... bli kin jajdli hu mux bizzejjed.

sahansitra huma jajdulek bix ddur roundabout waqahha 2nd afaik... sakemm ma tiqafx. dik ekonomija? u kull cans li jkollok trid tiqaf (ie. 1st, 2nd, and so on again)

[cotroler]

bxej tigik.. 20 eur + 16 eur (flixkun jack give or take)

kurzita.. min irid iwiegeb iwiegeb, xmagna andkom, diesel jew petrol, u kemm ittuwa fil gima..

tijaj mux xi efficjenti hafna.. uno 1.0l 10 euros (unleaded) namel bejn 60 - 70 miles nsuqa normali nafsila xi naqa rari

jek naqbad nafsila as salvagg qas 40 miles ma namel bl 10 euros

issa niprova nsuqa b mod efficjenti ha nara kem namel mili lol

[Liquid]

sa fej naf jien driving lessons jalmuk kif ssuq u mux kif tifranka l-petrol. jin kin jajdli xi affarijiet lemm u law vera imma wara kollox jin tallimt wahdi kif nifranka... bli kin jajdli hu mux bizzejjed.

sahansitra huma jajdulek bix ddur roundabout waqahha 2nd afaik... sakemm ma tiqafx. dik ekonomija? u kull cans li jkollok trid tiqaf (ie. 1st, 2nd, and so on again)

vera imma jien alija written test flock andek xi 75 questions jew kemm u kull ma hemm differenti uma 20 ax lohrajn kollha kliem differenti u listess answer, immishom idahlu dawn

imbad skont il learner li kelli jien kien orajt hafna jekk issaqsih xi haga iwegbek mhux jahtfek

[unrealfighter]

Jekk il-gvern kien idahhal x euros 3 xhur ilu mil fuel, jista jnaqqas it-taxxa u jkompli idahhal listess ammont ta flus ax il-prezz tal fuel ghola, u t-taxxa hija percentagg fuq il-prezz. Mhux se ssolvi l-problema, imma se tghin lil hafna nies....

[cotroler]

sa fej naf jien driving lessons jalmuk kif ssuq u mux kif tifranka l-petrol. jin kin jajdli xi affarijiet lemm u law vera imma wara kollox jin tallimt wahdi kif nifranka... bli kin jajdli hu mux bizzejjed.

sahansitra huma jajdulek bix ddur roundabout waqahha 2nd afaik... sakemm ma tiqafx. dik ekonomija? u kull cans li jkollok trid tiqaf (ie. 1st, 2nd, and so on again)

leq.. dik esacc fuq safety mux ecomomija.. jin anke dik li titfaha free waqt nizla ma nfiimx ala ma tistax tamila.. fil verita tkun qed tifranka hafna fuel

[cabb.]

leq.. dik esacc fuq safety mux ecomomija.. jin anke dik li titfaha free waqt nizla ma nfiimx ala ma tistax tamila.. fil verita tkun qed tifranka hafna fuel

engine break?

[Liquid]

leq.. dik esacc fuq safety mux ecomomija.. jin anke dik li titfaha free waqt nizla ma nfiimx ala ma tistax tamila.. fil verita tkun qed tifranka hafna fuel

ma tistax tamila ax mandekx control fuq il karozza jekk jinqala xi haga waqt li jekk tkun fuq gear andek reaction time aktar fast + tkun on engine break

aparti li wara li iggib il licenzja 90% free tamila issa jekk adekx thalija fuq il gear ma nafx ifhem

[cotroler]

ma tistax tamila ax mandekx control fuq il karozza jekk jinqala xi haga waqt li jekk tkun fuq gear andek reaction time aktar fast + tkun on engine break

aparti li wara li iggib il licenzja 90% free tamila issa jekk adekx thalija fuq il gear ma nafx ifhem

le ija dik vera.. imma tipo karozza tijaj mandix fifth allura malajr itella top speed.. ovvjament f nizla titfaha free tkun qed tifranka HAFNA fuel (ax il magna tkun qed tirevja xi 850k mentri fuq il gear tkun 2000k +)