MEPA reform?

[ki||fr0g]

Thursday, 3rd July 2008 - 10:47CET
UPDATE 2: Fort Cambridge project approved, MLP demands explanation

The Malta Environment and Planning Authority has unanimously approved the Fort Cambridge development project after fresh plans were submitted by the developers.

Approval was given at a turbulent board meeting which kicked off on the wrong note when reporters discovered a press release announcing the approval even before the meeting had started.

The statement was found in one of the press packs picked up by the reporters.

The issue was raised during the meeting and the chairman Austin Walker, defended the board, saying that MEPA had also prepared a press release in case the project was rejected. Although people who live near Fort Cambridge asked to see it, he simply said "no" and refused to look into the matter before the board went ahead with the vote.

The controversial project involves the building of 20-storey apartment blocks on the site of the former Holiday Inn. The original plan was rejected last month and the developers presented a new plan explaining that although the apartment blocks would have 20 storeys, the height would total that of 16 storeys.

The discussion was a heated one with the developers' camp and that of neighbours shouting at each other across the room, particularly over the impact which the development will have on traffic in the area.

Neighbours argued that this project, along with Midi at Tigne' and another anticipated mega project in the area would massively overload the traffic grid, increase pollution and make life miserable. The developers defended themselves on the basis that the traffic impact would not be that great while MEPA officials took the view that the traffic problem needed to be addressed holistically and not in connection with this specific project.

The Labour Party this evening demanded an explanation from the Prime Minister and the chairman of the Malta Environment and Planning Authority (MEPA) over how the MEPA statement on the approval of the Fort Cambridge development project was distributed to journalists even before the board hearing on the project had started.

The MLP said this incident raised very serious questions on the operations of the authority and reduced public consultation to a farce. The incident and the attitude of the MEPA officials continued to undermine public confidence in the institution.

Nice way to kick off MEPA reform!

[dynamited]

Well... i was expecting this to be honest. The developers are sitting on tonnes of cash from pre-paid apartments... so they have the capital to pay off whoever they want.

Damm... most of the apartments are sold. Even the ones on the `disputed` imaginary floors. So really... its either its approoved... or they get their customers requesting refunds.

Prosit Mepa however. Our parking and traffic problem in sliema is already in the shitter, lets make it worse shall we? Lets bring over more concrete jungles into an already overpopulated area. The only space left to build is in the sea... i might as well put in an application myself.... wtf it will probably go through.

Heh.... the press release already printed, bound and ready to go.... jesus at least FAKE it well. Or try to... imqar!

[Drowen]

u mhux ovja? l-kuntratturi qed ifottu l-MEPA b'haga... johorgu l-pjanta (bla permess), ihaffru, jbijaw kollox fuq l-pjanta, UMBAD japlikaw al permess... gg MEPA...

killfrog still got the PN pdf file? so that we'll start ticking off the lies

[scarface]

alija PN minn got tagen al gon nar ta!

JPO qannec possibli ma sabux provi kontrih??! kien se jdahhal 1.9million euros rent!

Taxxi tal-karozzi basta weghdi fuq weghdi li se jghidhom sa Mejju u adu ma qal xej

dahhalna fil-partnership for peace

alternative energy plans adu ma habbar xej .. basta irdopja surcharge!

l-inkjesta ta nicholas azzopardi li allegatament gie maqtul mill-pulizija ma hareg ebda rizultat fuqha!

l-allegazjonijiet u r rapporti li ghamel anglu xuereb li nxtraw il-voti ma hareg xejn fuqhom lanqas!

ma nafx jien ... pajjiz tal-mickey mouse b partit tal-qamel!!

[Reaper]

lol out of subject imma rajt it topic u posted by killfrog, for a moment there hsibt li ha nsib dwar mepa il clan rofl. hsibtkom amiltu reform lol

[ki||fr0g]

lol out of subject imma rajt it topic u posted by killfrog, for a moment there hsibt li ha nsib dwar mepa il clan rofl. hsibtkom amiltu reform lol

Xi hsara ibni :p

[Polter]

alija PN minn got tagen al gon nar ta!

JPO qannec possibli ma sabux provi kontrih??! kien se jdahhal 1.9million euros rent!

Mandix licken idea fejn qrajta dina bil miktub. Liema bniedem ha jikri ghal 1.9million meta jista jsiba ximkien iheor al ftit eluf fsena minghajr problemi ta dan it-tip?


Taxxi tal-karozzi basta weghdi fuq weghdi li se jghidhom sa Mejju u adu ma qal xej

mandix xi nghid


dahhalna fil-partnership for peace

malta kieent mebru tal pfp fid 1995, hrigna 1996, egajna dhlna 08. hlief li malta xorta tibqa stat newtrali qed taghti preferenza lin north "west". ghadni ma nistax nifem x'hemm hazin jew fejn hija gidba.


alternative energy plans adu ma habbar xej .. basta irdopja surcharge!

Surcharge ma giex iktar minn irdunpjat ghax rega gie issusidjat bi 20% ohra.
Alternative sources of energy sussidji fuq solar panels u xnaf jien mhux hemm qedin u ha jziduhom? Biex Malta taghmel energija alternattiva ghal pajjiz shih jigi iktar expensive miz zejt biex ikunu jistghu jibbilancjaw l hrug ghal impjanti.


l-inkjesta ta nicholas azzopardi li allegatament gie maqtul mill-pulizija ma hareg ebda rizultat fuqha!

Jekk linvestigazzjonijiet ghadom ghaddejjin tmur taqbad lispettur li qed jaghmilom mill bajd u tghidlu jghaggel?


l-allegazjonijiet u r rapporti li ghamel anglu xuereb li nxtraw il-voti ma hareg xejn fuqhom lanqas!

U wisq propabli qas qatt mhuma ha johorgu. Xhieda ha ssib li ha jghidu iwa anke jekk nassumu li vera qatt ma saru. Tieni nett mentalita injoranta maltija li kulhadd jinheba wara subajh, dawk li vera intalbu qatt mhu ha johorgu fil pubbliku.

[wolverine]

Mandix licken idea fejn qrajta dina bil miktub. Liema bniedem ha jikri ghal 1.9million meta jista jsiba ximkien iheor al ftit eluf fsena minghajr problemi ta dan it-tip?


qala sant fid dokumenti ta JPO li hareg
ammeta JPO stess fuq bondi+, hu kera l art ala***bu minn x se jamlu bih

Surcharge ma giex iktar minn irdunpjat ghax rega gie issusidjat bi 20% ohra.
"new surcharge rate will be 95 per cent, which is almost double the current rate at 50 per cent." - ma nafx x int tejd

Alternative sources of energy sussidji fuq solar panels u xnaf jien mhux hemm qedin u ha jziduhom? Biex Malta taghmel energija alternattiva ghal pajjiz shih jigi iktar expensive miz zejt biex ikunu jistghu jibbilancjaw l hrug ghal impjanti.

mena jekk se jigu ghola alfejn wiedhom ??? wieghed li ghawdex ma nafx kemm % se jkun "running from alternative enrergy sources" (wind u hydro nahseb)

sorry out of topic, imma kelli idejja jikluni biex inwiegeb

[cabb.]

ha jkun hemm surchage fuq frozen foods issa wkoll, another 2% guys!! =] oh joyyyyyyy

[Cyber_D]

ha jkun hemm surchage fuq frozen foods issa wkoll, another 2% guys!! =] oh joyyyyyyy

innaqsu mill hnizrijiet tal bbqs....ahjar ghad dieta :P

promises.. promises~~

[ki||fr0g]

Surcharge ma giex iktar minn irdunpjat ghax rega gie issusidjat bi 20% ohra.

Huh? S-surcharge oghla b'90% ta li kien (minn 50% al 95%) - jigifieri ijwa gie kwazi rduppjat. Jekk trid nfhemek kif tikkalkula wkoll...

Din tat-20% ha narawha daqxejn.. dan li qal l-Ministeru:

The ministry also explained that were it not for forward buying, consumers would now be charged a surcharge of 140 percent. Thanks to forward buying, the surcharge should be 115 percent, but government subsidies had scaled that back to 95 percent.

The ministry said Enemalta had forward buying contracts running into next year at an oil price which is 40 percent lower than the current oil price. But these were definite contracts, and once they expired and new ones were negotiated, oil prices would still be rising.

Jigifieri tinjora l-fatt li zdied binnofs imma tfahhar talli l-gvern absorba 20%?? Ma ndahhqux. Plus li dawn qed jiftahru bil- "forward buying" li mhu xej ghajr hedging agreement, li kien propona Alfred Sant u li l-PN tmejjlu bih! U issa qed jamluha huma stess..

Tridx ma ndahhkux siehbi.. l-program elettorali tal-PN ghal-2008 gie miktub fi zmien meta z-zejt kien ga qabez $100, jigifieri kienu jafu x'gej. L-iskuza li qed joghla z-zejt kullimkien ma tghoddx issa.. issa jghodd x'mizuri ha jiehu l-gvern (li suppost ga beda jiehu) biex inaqqas l-piz minn fuq n-nies.

[Drowen]

still got the PN's pre-election pdf file killfrog? if yes plss attach it here :)

[Polter]

qala sant fid dokumenti ta JPO li hareg
ammeta JPO stess fuq bondi+, hu kera l art ala***bu minn x se jamlu bih


"new surcharge rate will be 95 per cent, which is almost double the current rate at 50 per cent." - ma nafx x int tejd



mena jekk se jigu ghola alfejn wiedhom ??? wieghed li ghawdex ma nafx kemm % se jkun "running from alternative enrergy sources" (wind u hydro nahseb)

sorry out of topic, imma kelli idejja jikluni biex inwiegeb

bondi+ ma narahx (jew rari ha). kerha ta lart ovvja andu pero ma nafx jien kif 1.9miljun ewro ta qed nghidu lol. Kwazi miljun Maltin. Kemm jista jaghmel miljuni minn kien ha jaghmel dal "progett", biex ihallsu tant milljuni.

prezz ta ddawl bis surcharge 95% huwa ssusidjat. Ghax kieku jigi 115% bil prezz li hemm taz zejt li hemm bhalissa.

Energija alternattiva tista ssir biss btama falla li ,lolanda jew belgju - insejt liema, li ghanda lahjar kumpanija tal wind power u li giet tara xcans ghandna li namluha malta tghina bfondi ta leu bhala pajjiz li mghandiex biex taghmila wehida.

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EDIT: dw naf kif nahdima li gholiet b90% :p

Xorta nghid jien il prezz taz zejt anke l mlp kienu jafu li ha joghla. Minn fejn kienu ha jgibu l flus biex nnehhu s surcharge ma nafx... pero li mbad tmaqdar il fatt li ghadu hemm d defecit ma naqbilx maghha.

Nghid ghalija il gvern ghamel wahd amill ahjar ghazliet fis sitwazzjoni li qijed fiha, igifieri qsa tista tmaqdru ghax ghola.

[ki||fr0g]

Li jnehhi s-surcharge bin-nofs ma kinitx idea tajba imma fl-istess hin qed nhallsu kwazi 100% surcharge li xorta mhux tajjeb. Kieku l-Gvern kellu management ahjar ta finanzi f'daw l-ahhar 20 sena kien ikun jista jissussidja iktar mit-20% li qed jissussidja issa. Affarijiet ohra bhal investiment iktar kmieni f'energija u sussidju fuq karozzi iktar efficjenti jghinu wkoll.

Jien li turtani li l-PN jigi jghajjar lil MLP ipokriti talli kritikawh fuq s-surcharge, meta issa l-Gvern qed jaghmlu dak li ssugerixxa l-MLP qabel (hedging) u jiftahru ax kieku qedin nhallsu 140%. Imma ovvjament m'hemmx recognition.. hadd ma hu kapaci jammetti zball u jfahhar lil iehor.

PS. attached short and long versions of PN electoral plan

[cabb.]

US and Canada qed jghatu sussidji lil familji li ghandhom karozzi iktar minn ghaxar snin biex jixu karozzi godda, aktar efficjenti u jghinu l ambjent :P ideas ideas!

[Polter]

Li jnehhi s-surcharge bin-nofs ma kinitx idea tajba imma fl-istess hin qed nhallsu kwazi 100% surcharge li xorta mhux tajjeb. Kieku l-Gvern kellu management ahjar ta finanzi f'daw l-ahhar 20 sena kien ikun jista jissussidja iktar mit-20% li qed jissussidja issa. Affarijiet ohra bhal investiment iktar kmieni f'energija u sussidju fuq karozzi iktar efficjenti jghinu wkoll.

Jien li turtani li l-PN jigi jghajjar lil MLP ipokriti talli kritikawh fuq s-surcharge, meta issa l-Gvern qed jaghmlu dak li ssugerixxa l-MLP qabel (hedging) u jiftahru ax kieku qedin nhallsu 140%. Imma ovvjament m'hemmx recognition.. hadd ma hu kapaci jammetti zball u jfahhar lil iehor.

PS. attached short and long versions of PN electoral plan

mux ipokrezija wkoll tmaqdar li d defecit ma naqasx kemm pjanat, bir ragunijiet li hemm is sussidji godda?

[ki||fr0g]

mux ipokrezija wkoll tmaqdar li d defecit ma naqasx kemm pjanat, bir ragunijiet li hemm is sussidji godda?

Le mhijiex, ghax jekk l-PN qal li se jonqos d-deficit, mela allura kellu pjan li ma mexiex mieghu kif suppost.. jew l-pjan kien hazin mil-bidu. Ma tistax twahhal fis-sussidji u fil-prezz taz-zejt ghax dawk ga kienu jafu bihom.

[Polter]

Le mhijiex, ghax jekk l-PN qal li se jonqos d-deficit, mela allura kellu pjan li ma mexiex mieghu kif suppost.. jew l-pjan kien hazin mil-bidu. Ma tistax twahhal fis-sussidji u fil-prezz taz-zejt ghax dawk ga kienu jafu bihom.

defecit xorta naqas, mux daqs kemm pjanat

[wolverine]

bondi+ ma narahx (jew rari ha). kerha ta lart ovvja andu pero ma nafx jien kif 1.9miljun ewro ta qed nghidu lol. Kwazi miljun Maltin. Kemm jista jaghmel miljuni minn kien ha jaghmel dal "progett", biex ihallsu tant milljuni.

aqra
http://www.maltastar.com/pages/msrv/msFullArt.asp?an=21969

u ara tistax tejd li mhux vera (minbarra illi qal hu stess li kien se jdahhal 1.9m), u ftakar illi...........
flimkien kollox possibbli!!!

[Polter]

aqra
http://www.maltastar.com/pages/msrv/msFullArt.asp?an=21969

u ara tistax tejd li mhux vera (minbarra illi qal hu stess li kien se jdahhal 1.9m), u ftakar illi...........
flimkien kollox possibbli!!!

in 15years ha jiehu 1.9million euros mela rent (li sa fejn naf jien tinghad fis sena -.-). tinei nett qatt mghidt li mhix possibli, pero li hija impropabli :)

[wolverine]

mux fis sena, b kollox 1.9 in 15 years