sales charts of latest consoles

[filthy hippie]

On 27 March 2007 it was reported on the BBC News website that the PlayStation 3 had broken United Kingdom sales records. It had sold more than 165,000 units in its first two days on the shelves, compared to 71,000 for the Xbox 360, and 105,000 for the Wii.[134] It is the second-fastest selling home console in Britain with a software attachment rate of 1.65;[135] however, British retailers claim that the PS3 was subjected to as many as 20,000 pre-order cancellations.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6499841.stm

Xbox is cheaper yet it sold less, can anyone explain this?

[D_SINNER]

xbox sucks, nuff said.

[Baegun]

well, xbox 360 has been on sale in the UK for about a year and 4 months. It is impossible to keep the momentum going all the time.

the ps3 obviously sold more because it had its launch.

[filthy hippie]

well xbox 360 was not only cheaper but it had no competition at the time.
whilst PS is more expensive and people would have already spent money on a console if they wanted one ASAP yet they still sold more.

Well both had launches, so wth.

I read that Sony planned to run at a loss for quite some time until they can finaly start makign profit. they had to lower the price of the PS to encourage people to buy more.

Did you know it also managed to make it to 2nd in the race for the fastest selling console? psp is 1st.
some nice achievements for such an expensive beast. But the more time goes on the more PS3 owners will get their moneys worth due to company fully utilising its power, i wouldnt be surprised if Xbox reaches its peak anytime soon.

[Baegun]

lol xi tridni nghidlek? go out and shell Lm350 for a ps3 :D .


i'm happy with my 360. I'm not a console fanboy. I just keep an open mind. You'd be the most naive PS fanboy in the world to say that sony hasn't fucked up big time in this generation.


the biggest proof:
sony is losing all its exclusives. I'm sure you heard that even devil may cry 4 is no longer ps-exclusive.

[filthy hippie]

1) i didnt really plan on buying anyone of them

2) I always hated devil may cry, not my type of game, so do you think i really care.

3) I think that no company wants to have their game exclusive to a console or pc. they all want it on as many consoles as possible to make money.

Ex. Gears of Wars is coming to PC, if you ask me, thats a big blow to Xbox, becuase GOW helped the console sell more, there isnt anything else on Xbox that realy made me say, ah cool or make me want to know more about the game.

4) What is exclusive to Xbox? Rumble? we had ps2 for that. althought a controller which can scratch your balls or bring women to orgasm is better than the rumble free ps3 contorller. it wont make a difference in the end. but afaik ps3 had that X-Z-Y axis thingy which we havnt seen yet on any controller
(i stand to be correct i tink on weder it has it or not)

5) and you do know that PS3 has the things all builtin which for Xbox360 you`d have to buy seperately. ex the HD-dvd reader thingy which ps3 has its counterpart as default. and the HD-dvd reader thingy will bring the price up to the ps3 price yet it will be external and should your home theatre area force you to put it on the Xbox you will only (i assume) get more heat from it transfared to the xbox. and we all know how the xbox sounds permanently like a cat coughing up a furball, (note the cat gets very hot) 3 usb on xbox 6 on the ps3. 7 controllers for PS3, 4 for xbox

6) you do know that Xbox has been out an extra year, PS3 is still unkown land for most companies whilst Xbox land has already be explored and lots of improvements have been made

and the Hd-dvd reader costs $200, until you get that its not realy next gen, its more like, just-now gen.

[billy]

Originally posted by lectric

3) I think that no company wants to have their game exclusive to a console or pc. they all want it on as many consoles as possible to make money.

tell that to hojima and to the numerous companies being bought by MS and Sony


Ex. Gears of Wars is coming to PC, if you ask me, thats a big blow to Xbox, becuase GOW helped the console sell more, there isnt anything else on Xbox that realy made me say, ah cool or make me want to know more about the game.

about 2yrs late..nice blow by which time the xbox will have mass effect and halo3 as exclusives


4) What is exclusive to Xbox? Rumble? we had ps2 for that. althought a controller which can scratch your balls or bring women to orgasm is better than the rumble free ps3 contorller. it wont make a difference in the end. but afaik ps3 had that X-Z-Y axis thingy which we havnt seen yet on any controller
(i stand to be correct i tink on weder it has it or not)

the ps3 doesnt have rumble because sony said that it was ''old school'' and not needed anymore...but seriously it was because they were being sued by immersion

have u used the six axis? its a joke! its like a student from 1st yr bscit has programmed it! it is nothing compared to the wii


5) and you do know that PS3 has the things all builtin which for Xbox360 you`d have to buy seperately. ex the HD-dvd reader thingy which ps3 has its counterpart as default. and the HD-dvd reader thingy will bring the price up to the ps3 price yet it will be external and should your home theatre area force you to put it on the Xbox you will only (i assume) get more heat from it transfared to the xbox. and we all know how the xbox sounds permanently like a cat coughing up a furball, (note the cat gets very hot) 3 usb on xbox 6 on the ps3. 7 controllers for PS3, 4 for xbox

if the ps3 didnt have bluray, it would barely sell. Why do we have to pay because programmers cant compress their textures well? Cod for xbox is 4gb, Cod for ps3 is 22gb and the xbox actually looks BETTER

i would like to see a HD screen being split in 7 controllers..let me explain this well. Some remotes, like the bluray remove actually uses 3 SLOTS...there is ur remaining 4slots for games


6) you do know that Xbox has been out an extra year, PS3 is still unkown land for most companies whilst Xbox land has already be explored and lots of improvements have been made

and the Hd-dvd reader costs $200, until you get that its not realy next gen, its more like, just-now gen.

nextgen media does not make a nextgen console....the ps3 could have done without a bluray model and yet would still have been called a nextgen consoles

with regards to developement, believe it or not final dev posts were sent by MS in july for a noveber release, so I dont really think ps3 programmers didnt really have time...infact Resistance fall of man is quite a finished product imho

Like it or not, the xbox stands so high that it will take the ps3 months if not years to actually scrape the xbox's performance

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And for the original poster....that site is totally biased. Current consoles can't be compared. Does the writer know that the best bluray player is the ps3? It is even better than the Lm790 sony bluray player...so why would I buy the bluray player while I can get a better product for more than half the price

again, if the ps3 didnt have bluray it wouldnt sell enough to buy sony a hamburger each for their employees

(btw i'm a ps3 gamer)

enough said

[Avaloner]

The answer to your question is simple. Both 360 and Wii had limited stock at launch since they launched their consoles almost simultaneously worldwide. Thus many people wanted to buy one but could not find them on the shelf. If you have 71,000 units you can only sell 71,000 units.

Sony on the other hand regarded Europe as second class (as usual) and brought over the (gimped) PS3 almost 6 months after the rest of the world. They had enough stock to keep up with demand. Sadly for them the great majority of people who wanted to buy a PS3 did so so sales will slow down considerably from now on.

[Baegun]

holy crap lectric, you really do have a knack for attacking people to prove your point. and your point is in this case stupid.

do u think i don't know this stuff you are saying? of course i know it!!!






Originally posted by lectric
1) i didnt really plan on buying anyone of them

ok.... so why are you whining to defend the ps3?


Originally posted by lectric

2) I always hated devil may cry, not my type of game, so do you think i really care.

you may not like devil may cry, but others do. you seem to be uninformed regarding the other "ps3 exclusives" that are no longer exclusive:

assassin's creed,
virtua fighter 5,
GTA IV,
etc...

any one of those interests you?


Originally posted by lectric
3) I think that no company wants to have their game exclusive to a console or pc. they all want it on as many consoles as possible to make money.

Ex. Gears of Wars is coming to PC, if you ask me, thats a big blow to Xbox, becuase GOW helped the console sell more, there isnt anything else on Xbox that realy made me say, ah cool or make me want to know more about the game.

dude you have got to be joking! let me spell something out for you:

Xbox brand ---> owned by Microsoft.
Windows brand ----> owned by.... MICROSOFT!

do you think that microsoft are stupid enough to hurt their own product's sale by putting Gears of war on PC?

Yeah... halo also came on the pc years later. does that mean that halo is diminished as an xbox franchise? i'll let you answer that.


Originally posted by lectric
4) What is exclusive to Xbox? Rumble? we had ps2 for that. althought a controller which can scratch your balls or bring women to orgasm is better than the rumble free ps3 contorller. it wont make a difference in the end. but afaik ps3 had that X-Z-Y axis thingy which we havnt seen yet on any controller
(i stand to be correct i tink on weder it has it or not)

what is exclusive to xbox? erm :| how about:

xbox live for one!

and forthcoming games like mass effect, bioshock, forza 2, halo 3....

and yes.... the rumbleeeeeeee!!!!



Originally posted by lectric
5) and you do know that PS3 has the things all builtin which for Xbox360 you`d have to buy seperately. ex the HD-dvd reader thingy which ps3 has its counterpart as default. and the HD-dvd reader thingy will bring the price up to the ps3 price yet it will be external and should your home theatre area force you to put it on the Xbox you will only (i assume) get more heat from it transfared to the xbox. and we all know how the xbox sounds permanently like a cat coughing up a furball, (note the cat gets very hot) 3 usb on xbox 6 on the ps3. 7 controllers for PS3, 4 for xbox

i am trying to decipher what u are attempting to say here...

are you saying that the ps3 supports 7 controllers?!

or that the "HD-dvd reader thingy" causes xbox to overheat?!



Originally posted by lectric
6) you do know that Xbox has been out an extra year, PS3 is still unkown land for most companies whilst Xbox land has already be explored and lots of improvements have been made

and the Hd-dvd reader costs $200, until you get that its not realy next gen, its more like, just-now gen.

i think that billy nullified your argument in his reply pretty well. and he owns a ps3, so he's not that biased. ;)

[Xon]

When the xbox 360 came out people were skeptical about it and thought they'd wait for the ps3 ... the xbox gained popularity as time passed while sony fan boys kept waiting and waiting and waiting.. you can't compare launches!

Also, the fact that it has blu-ray incorporated makes the ps3 a buy for all those wanting next gen media players! The ONLY reason I'm considering a ps3 is the blu-ray capability.

[filthy hippie]

Originally posted by billy




if the ps3 didnt have bluray, it would barely sell. Why do we have to pay because programmers cant compress their textures well? Cod for xbox is 4gb, Cod for ps3 is 22gb and the xbox actually looks BETTER

i would like to see a HD screen being split in 7 controllers..let me explain this well. Some remotes, like the bluray remove actually uses 3 SLOTS...there is ur remaining 4slots for games

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again, if the ps3 didnt have bluray it wouldnt sell enough to buy sony a hamburger each for their employees



well if it didnt have blue ray it wouldnt be as expensive and from what i read, they have worked very hard on the blueray reader to make it backwards compatible, i assume thats worth something. issa dont come and say, ghax you can do it easily, bcoz you may no more about the technical aspect then us but do you know more than the people at sony?

about the 7 controllers, its for games like wrestling were on ps2 you could be 6 pple playing, and i have tried it

now if cod for ps3 is 22gb, doesnt it mean you roughly have enough space for another 2-3 games, i think this would have been brought up b4 in consoles wars and tbh i dont believe it due to it being so over the top. Almost 6 times smaller than the ps3 version is to much to believe, get me some proof plz.

you dont need the blue ray remote, and even if you do, you still have 1 more extra usb, +the controller

has anyone ever thought that the ps3 was targeted at people who
1)can afford to buy it (rich segment of the market just like rolls royce)
2) people who want more features other than just gaming. kind of a multi-station.

[filthy hippie]

Originally posted by Baegun
holy crap lectric, you really do have a knack for attacking people to prove your point. and your point is in this case stupid.

do u think i don't know this stuff you are saying? of course i know it!!!







ok.... so why are you whining to defend the ps3?



you may not like devil may cry, but others do. you seem to be uninformed regarding the other "ps3 exclusives" that are no longer exclusive:

assassin's creed,
virtua fighter 5,
GTA IV,
etc...

any one of those interests you?



dude you have got to be joking! let me spell something out for you:

Xbox brand ---> owned by Microsoft.
Windows brand ----> owned by.... MICROSOFT!

do you think that microsoft are stupid enough to hurt their own product's sale by putting Gears of war on PC?

Yeah... halo also came on the pc years later. does that mean that halo is diminished as an xbox franchise? i'll let you answer that.



what is exclusive to xbox? erm :| how about:

xbox live for one!

and forthcoming games like mass effect, bioshock, forza 2, halo 3....

and yes.... the rumbleeeeeeee!!!!




i am trying to decipher what u are attempting to say here...

are you saying that the ps3 supports 7 controllers?!

or that the "HD-dvd reader thingy" causes xbox to overheat?!




i think that billy nullified your argument in his reply pretty well. and he owns a ps3, so he's not that biased. ;)

1) you have reading problems because i didnt attack someone, attack uses offensive words not lots of words.
If i dont use offensive words i`m not attACking


Also i have never heard of assasins creed,
but apart from a list of games exclusive to ps3 is metal gear solid, which could have made the ps3 sell like GOW,
xbox live afaik is the ability to play online against other people, can you do that with ps3? yes.

anyways ps3 will make more money for sony, some continents are ps3 lovers whether its better or not like asian where like 2% voted for xbox 360. in EU there is most conflict so its a bit obvious that they put us last. (from a business point of view, its good, from my point of view its not0)

[Baegun]

you were assuming that you know more than me about this stuff, and "informing" me about stuff that i've known for ages.

now i don't consider myself a genius regarding this stuff, but I am able to discuss them, without being taught and informed.



now assasin's creed is one of the top 5 biggest games coming out this year (hopefully), so it matters to a lot of people. i suggest you watch its gameplay presentation.

yes you can play online with the ps3, but it sucks dry monkey poop compared to xbox live. this is the general feeling by people.

[filthy hippie]

Originally posted by Baegun
you were assuming that you know more than me about this stuff, and "informing" me about stuff that i've known for ages.

now i don't consider myself a genius regarding this stuff, but I am able to discuss them, without being taught and informed.



now assasin's creed is one of the top 5 biggest games coming out this year (hopefully), so it matters to a lot of people. i suggest you watch its gameplay presentation.

yes you can play online with the ps3, but it sucks dry monkey poop compared to xbox live. this is the general feeling by people.

how am i supposed to know that you know? tell me what you know and i`ll be more than happy to write less.
"by people" YOu sound like some sort of market researcher, you dont know what "the people" want and you dont know whether is sucks or not.
Well the fact that the people dont have to pay or buy any extra shit to connect is already a plus. And you do know that you also have to be lucky aswell. my friend has his xbox live at HORRIBLE speeds, which is one of the reasons he went ahead and chipped it.

[billy]

Originally posted by lectric
well if it didnt have blue ray it wouldnt be as expensive and from what i read, they have worked very hard on the blueray reader to make it backwards compatible, i assume thats worth something. issa dont come and say, ghax you can do it easily, bcoz you may no more about the technical aspect then us but do you know more than the people at sony?

about the 7 controllers, its for games like wrestling were on ps2 you could be 6 pple playing, and i have tried it

now if cod for ps3 is 22gb, doesnt it mean you roughly have enough space for another 2-3 games, i think this would have been brought up b4 in consoles wars and tbh i dont believe it due to it being so over the top. Almost 6 times smaller than the ps3 version is to much to believe, get me some proof plz.

you dont need the blue ray remote, and even if you do, you still have 1 more extra usb, +the controller

has anyone ever thought that the ps3 was targeted at people who
1)can afford to buy it (rich segment of the market just like rolls royce)
2) people who want more features other than just gaming. kind of a multi-station.

proof? I'll be glad to show u the difference myself...or better yet... the xbox uses DVDs for games so max of 4.5gb...compared to the ps3's 22gb (enough said on this topic)

no...the bluray didnt have backward compatability issues...there was NO delay on any compatability. Yes, some ppl are more capable than sony's own engineers that's for sure

Again you mention 7 controllers on 1 ps3...please (for the love of God) explain to me how u'll be able to play 7 players on 1 screen?! Totally unnecessary! Again, not ALL controllers take 1 slot..some take 2, even 3 bluetooth slots (wireless is managed via bluetooth btw) And btw why are u mentioning usb when everything is in wireless? If a controller is plugged via usb (via the nice 1mtr long cable sony presents)...it still hogs up a slot (from those 7 u mentioned)

you call the ps3 a multi-station, I call it the best (and cheapest) blu-ray player...perhaps for now

[Stewwi]

Originally posted by lectric

1)can afford to buy it (rich segment of the market just like rolls royce)
2) people who want more features other than just gaming. kind of a multi-station.


They really should hire you in the marketing department :rolleyes:

and if you wanna call the ps3 a multistation i can call the xbox the same.

[Xon]

if your friend has his xbox @ horrible speed i suggest a change of isp.

[Avaloner]

I will repeat my point. Xbox 360 sold less because there were less to sell. Popularity, marketing, branding, price... these things had nothing to do with it.

Microsoft's plans were laid out from the beginning. With the first console they wanted to break into the console market. With the second console they wanted to level the playing field. With the third console they intend on dominating the market. Are they succeeding? If you ask me I think that up till now they are.

[Baegun]

i don't want microsoft to dominate the market tbh. the more balanced competition there is, the better the product for the consumer is.

unfortunately with the rate sony is fucking up, i don't see another pattern emerging.

[Addict_07]

Word of advice.....

Do not argue with lectric. he wont ever listen to your arguments.

[filthy hippie]

1) yes i do listen

2) from were are you getting this becoz i know i dont ignore arguments.

3) the last tiem i tried to argue with you, you say 1 thing then in the next few sentences you say either stuff which doesnt make sense or you contradict yourself. One of the reasons i say huh when arguing wid u. (which for the huh is often)

try argue wid him and u`ll see.

[Avaloner]

As expected:

Sales of the PlayStation 3 have dropped dramatically on the second week of release in the UK, with official Chart Track figures revealing a fall of 82 per cent, GamesIndustry.biz is reporting.

Chart Track data is gathered from 7000 UK retail outlets representing 90 per cent of the software market, including GAME, Gamestation, Play.com, Asda and HMV.


Source:

Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=74928)

[Baegun]

as expected and predicted...

[Templar_SEan]

u dont have to be lucky to get a good speed if u have a good isp wid a good connection u should have no problem all the people i know who own an xbox on live say that they have perfect play online ....all except 1 which has a crappy connection and tats why his lags.

every1 knew bout the limited supply during launches of the xbox and wii tats why they were quite low but the sales were consistent unlike that of the ps3 which as seen has dropped.

As for wat u were sayin earlier bout the HD-DvD drive its better like this....why would some1 pay more for sumthin he doesnt want....like this if he wants to watch dvds on high def he can buy it.

I've seen and played call of duty 3 on both consoles in my opinion the xbox 1 is better.

[Templar_SEan]

oh and i dont know if u know this but next gen means that it has the latest graphics doesnt have to have major storage capacity

and the ps3 and the 360 have the same grafix 1080i its those grafix that make them next gen.

and u think tat the ps3 wouldnt have done shitty if it didnt have the ps2 to build up the reputation of sony????

[filthy hippie]

Ara mela
1) dont act like you know about the stock etc.. becuase i know you dont, u fooling no one

2) check carefully, 1080i is only for the xbox360 elite. go check it out!, i really mean it.

3) hd-dvd reader is to read Hd-dvd not to watch dvds on hd

4) and if your "oh and i dont know etc.." is reference to my post (if it is) then being able to read hd-dvds/bluray and major storage capacity have nothing to do.

[Templar_SEan]

lol u know there is absolutley no difference in grafix between the xbox 360 and the elite????

the differences between them r, HDMI cable, smaller processors which make less noise but loading time is reduces by a very small amount also, a bigger hard drive. tats it there is no difference in grafix tats just stupid thinkin to get out sumthin like tat now.

And how the hell would u know wat i know???? i had been searchin for weeks for info on which to buy the 360 or the ps3 so dont act like u know more than every1 here coz u dont, and the fact tat u think that the elite has better grafix shows it. Think about it if it had bette grafix then they wouldnt be able to put some games on the normal xbox 360 forcin every1 to buy a new 1 after every1 has forked out cash to buy it oh yeah reallllly smart

[Templar_SEan]

every1 keeps contradicting u yet u still throw urself deeper into the fire tats just stuborn and if ur not gonna buy either of them then wth r u doin complainin about them anyway??????

[Templar_SEan]

oh and just in case u dont believe me bout the grafix here

http://www.whatconsole.co.uk/xbox360.php

tats a review on the normal 20Gb console as u can see under resolution it clearly states 1080i

[filthy hippie]

u do know that 1080 those not refer to grafix dont u? but to resolution

[Templar_SEan]

it refers to the resolution which determines sharpness of images, under grafix all ur gonna find is the grafix card which is the same in both the elite and the core, the clock speed of the grafix card of the ps3 is slightly faster at 50Mhz more than tat of the ATI 1 for the 360 but since it has only 512MB cache memory it takes a bit longer to access so i pretty much comes the same.

basicly when u buy the 360 elite ur just buyin the deluxe model u get extra crap stuff but basicly its the same machine

[filthy hippie]

no i`m 100% sure bout the resolution.
I mixed up 1080p with 1080i, i ment to say 1080p earlier

X360
http://hardware.teamxbox.com/articles/xbox/1144/The-Xbox-360-System-Specifications/p1
check HD game support

X360 elite
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/7160/8184/microsoft-xbox-360-elite-official.phtml

whilst ps3 supports all of them.

[Templar_SEan]

yeah coz of the HDMI cable, and is not noticable practicly it still comes normal HD. consoles r not like pcs u cant just upgrade them when u feel like nd upgrade the games then (its theyr only downfall compared to pcs) so games r going to be exactly the same on both elite and normal and the ps3 FOR NOW will have the same as well...i think it has the potential to be great but for now games look better on the xbox


coz imagine then theyd have to get out games for the elite and games for core

[BIX]

Originally posted by billy
have u used the six axis? its a joke! its like a student from 1st yr bscit has programmed it! it is nothing compared to the wii

Hey! I'm sueing you for that!

[billy]

ok :p

with regards to 1080i and 1080p, the difference is negligeable. Most LCDs & PLASMAs barely support 1080i, let alone 1080p (progressive goodness)

[Stewwi]

Originally posted by BIX
Hey! I'm sueing you for that!


well he has a point :rolleyes:

[BIX]

Originally posted by Stewwi
well he has a point :rolleyes:

oh shut up :P

[filthy hippie]

Originally posted by billy
ok :p

with regards to 1080i and 1080p, the difference is negligeable. Most LCDs & PLASMAs barely support 1080i, let alone 1080p (progressive goodness)

so your saying that both sony and microsoft gave their consoles a resolution which no tvs have?
its like saying they put a socket for a wire not yet invented

[billy]

barely support doesnt mean that no tvs have (as you have put it)

1080 means 1920x1200...somthing achievable on highend LCDS and uktra/uber/mega (u get the picture) highend plasmas

remember that most screens downscale and upscale as they please

and yes...sometimes we get sockets year in advance..an example is the hdmi port, saw it back in 2002 when there was no hardware nor consoles nor decoders for it

[filthy hippie]

u didnt get the gist of what i ment by the socket thing

[Dragunu]

wii leads the jan and feb 07 sales.

i wonder if nintendo releases some sort of foot sensors.

immagina beat em ups u futbol xbuzz :D toqod tigri on the spot LOL

imbad ikolok ci calorie meter ximkien
rofl

[Templar_SEan]

you want to see who's winnin the console wars??? (yes i know xbox has been out for longer but still) here is the sales so far

http://nexgenwars.com/

tat counts official microsoft retailer sales so not sure if it counts malta sales. In my opinion the Wii will win it and by quite a bit wid the 360 2nd. the ps3 reached its high point wid the europe launch....and wid its 82% drop in sales thats gonna really hurt them. the 360 has been consistent which is great but the wii started off great and keeps climbing up that ladder

[Baegun]

the proof is in the pudding.

sony is feeding people bullshit like:

you NEED 1080p for true-HD
or
you NEED Blu-ray for max storage
or
you NEED cell processor for next gen
etc etc.


truth is, this stuff doesn't affect the games. who cares what's under the hood if developers can't use it well, and the games suck ass.

[Avaloner]

Originally posted by lectric
u didnt get the gist of what i ment by the socket thing

The point you made at the beginning is not valid. Xbox 360 and Wii sold less compared to the PS3 in the first few days of release because not enough units were available for those consoles while PS3 took its time to release the console in Europe. End of story. Its not a win for the PS3, its a different strategy which might be a good or a bad thing. Till now I believe it was a bad thing since Sony lost its footing in Europe.

[V0rteX]

btw here's quite a good link detailing all the exclusive releases that each console will get someday.

http://www.gamingtarget.com/article.php?artid=6759