Klandestini 2009

[G-lock]

Ship with 66 illegal immigrants on the way to our shores as we speak.

the first one this summer.

[nev]

is it news anymore?
-.-

[Exclusive]

The thing about this one is that these were picked up by a Maltese patrol boat just 24 miles off Lampedusa (I think it's about 100-150 miles away from Maltese shores.

Now why would a Maltese patrol boat be so far off away operating in Italian waters? This is why :




Note: The pink box represents Malta's SAR region, that means that the Maltese Armed Forces operate the search and rescue operations in that massive area.

The X symbols in this map represent search and rescue cases coordinated by the Armed Forces of Malta.


On the other hand, international laws state that rescued migrants should be disembarked in the closest safe port, i.e. in this case Lampedusa, but again the Italian government refused entry and we, as the famous pussies we are, accepted the migrants, showing Italy that we are easily intimidated.

If a solution is not found fast and no action is taken, we will soon end up as the first dumping place of African immigrants, and as anyone can see the burden sharing we agreed with years ago has only managed to shove a tight pole up our arses.

[Liquid]

saying that the italians are scaring the maltese is far from it, it was just a payback on one case they had a few weeks/months ago, a boat that had 100+ illegal immigrants wasn't being accepted to be saved by the maltese neither the italians eventually "Le Iene" went on the secene and after a few hours you see the italian coast gaurd coming to check and eventually save the immigrants. so i think it was more of a payback

[FrodoLives]

Jekk ha tamlu xi Count, tinsewx kwazi 500 li dahlu min jannar sa issa..

looking at the SAR map, Malta bla dubju ha taqbad kull daghjsa li titlaq mil Libja...

[GaNNi]

http://www.mein.it/?page=klandestini

[Exclusive]

great 832 so far, and the weather has been anything but nice in these last months. Makes me wonder what will the number be as soon as calm weather hits the islands.

To be honest, I think we need more politicians with the ideologies of the Lega Nord's likes. Fuori I Klandestini says Lega Nord, why don't we?

[Drowen]

it's useless discussing this subject for the 1000th time, when the men in power aren't willing to do anything... they have the power, not us people. ara kemm amlu protesti, petitions.. alxej... fuck it

[Sp|DEy^]

is it news anymore?
-.-


it is....



bad news...

[G-lock]

it's useless discussing this subject for the 1000th time, when the men in power aren't willing to do anything... they have the power, not us people. ara kemm amlu protesti, petitions.. alxej... fuck it

thing is , the minister of justice antoine mifsud bonnici has worked really hard on the recent lampedusa incident, and after all that work trying to keep an agreement, the Government accepted yesterdays 66 immigrants without any fuss, which by maritime law they had no right to send them to malta because they were 4 times closer to italian waters.

But this is Malta, and besides its a discussion ux, people talk/discuss.

[Kevin]

according to the times there were some passengers in urgent need for medical care! in such cases there isn't much you can do i guess, because otherwise we'll look bad!

[Exclusive]

according to the times there were some passengers in urgent need for medical care! in such cases there isn't much you can do i guess, because otherwise we'll look bad!

those 66 migrants are nothing compared to the next migrants our government will accept in the future.

By accepting these 66 immigrants, we showed Italy and the EU that we would gladly accept "burden sharing" even if it means that the burden is only shared between us Maltese citizens.

[cabb.]

no need to wear shades this summer!

[filthy hippie]

Klandestini 2009
starring Samuel L Jackson, Will Smith & Forrest Whitaker

[Midian]

what happened with the Government Attitude's "Take it to the nearest safest port" ? usual bullshit, usual problems... welcome aboard niggas, make yourself at home, go to Marsa or HalFar for your brotherhoods, oh and don't forget, it's all on da house, so call your bros, here's a free cell phone to do so

[unrealfighter]

Apart from all the space they're taking up, and the fact that they make Malta an unsafe place to live in, if swine flu hits Africa, you can be sure it will infect every person there. So if we don't get it from tourists, we'll get it from them.

[FrodoLives]

look at it this way:

Italy took 155
Malta took 66

[G-lock]

look at it this way:

Italy took 155
Malta took 66

for the time being..................

what happens with the next boat ? Are the italians counting them to reach 155 ?

[filthy hippie]

look at it this way:

Italy took 155
Malta took 66

look at it this way:

italy is huge
malta barely barely shows on the map

Italy can just build a klandestini village in the middle of nowhere and throw them there
Malta will probibly the size of the klandestini village

Malta should just stop saving them, everyone else seems to be an armchair critic, they criticise and protest and whatever, but when its time to do some shit you wont find them anywhere
unfortunately thats the only way we`ll get those bageutte chewing, schnitizl munching, tea guzzling, bull killing, pizza-making, olive-picking turds to get the fuck up and do something

gonzi should just give them the finger, literally

[johnmaclane]

look at it this way:

Italy took 155
Malta took 66

Take into consideration population density and the figure looks real ugly.

[st4t]

look at it this way:

Italy took 155
Malta took 66

italy: population - 60,000,000; density 199.2/km2(~)
malta: population - 400,000; density 1,298/km2 (~)

ouch

[Polter]

Take into consideration population density and the figure looks real ugly.

the cities (milan, rome, etc where they can find jobs) in italy are overpopulated as much in malta... so numbers would technically even out.

Still I dislike them.

[filthy hippie]

the cities (milan, rome, etc where they can find jobs) in italy are overpopulated as much in malta... so numbers would technically even out.

Still I dislike them.

italy has were to expand to
malta doesnt

[Exclusive]

the cities (milan, rome, etc where they can find jobs) in italy are overpopulated as much in malta... so numbers would technically even out.

Still I dislike them.

I think it's about time we stop talking about figures and talk about facts.

Fact 1 : Italy was one of the European countries to drain Africa's rich resources. It was one of the countries to destroy Africa's economy, fucking the place up, now it's their turn to take all this shit, not us.

Fact 2 : The Italian Foreign Minister Maroni is a member of the Lega Nord political party. This party happens to be a far-right party whose only beliefs and motives are either racist or fascist. Hence this Maroni is nothing but a big mouthed bully who is currently bullying us into submission. Just to confirm my statement, Maroni doesn't even help Lampedusa by taking migrants into inland Italy, so no wonder that he is trying to push them to Malta now.

Fact 3 : As I said before, International laws state that saved immigrants must be landed in the nearest safe port, which on most cases happens to be Lampedusa but nearly always ends up to be Malta, thus breaking International Laws.

Fact 4 : Malta cannot hold anymore migrants. If Italy doesn't want them then we won't take them either. These immigrants are nothing but pawns used by Libya, then we should just treat them that way. If the EU really cares about saving human lives, then it surely won't be a problem for us to stop letting in the illegals.


P.S. - Regarding the formal letter the Government has sent to the Italian Gov; action speaks louder then words Dr. gonzi, so do something about it.

[G-lock]

check this out nies. tal biza e ! 7 minutes.

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[FrodoLives]

check this out nies. tal biza e ! 7 minutes.

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tal biza mma xejn ma nistaw namlu l'ewropa ga hxit lila nnifisa.. Abort,Divorzju,Gays.. Dawn kollha sfiducjaw in nis filli jibnu Familja = inqas tfal. Il gays Ma jkollomx tfal. Tfajla tqila tista tirisolvi ghal Abort. Kopja wara sentejn mizzewga ggieldet u Amelt Divorzju... U bqajna bla tfal.



back on the Klandestini,

Vera forsi il population u density komparati ehe, biss ma nistaw namlu xejnbix inwaqfu ax Malta belatu wahda tajjeb:



Kull Daghjsa li Titlaq mil Libya prattikalment (li nahseb 90% kolla min hemm jitilqu) ha Jidhlu fis SAR ta Malta bxi mod jew iehor u jsiru responsabilta tana.

[Polter]

Turn to guns?

[nev]

check this out nies. tal biza e ! 7 minutes.

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how sad ostja

[johnmaclane]

Turn to guns?

Already have.

[cabb.]

mhux al xi haga, pero norman lowell kien qal aroudn 3 years ago ili by 2025, 10% tal population ta malta tkun klandestini....

guess he's proving himself year by year that he was always right... but noooo people just laughed at him and said he's crazy and that will never happen

[FrodoLives]

mhux al xi haga, pero norman lowell kien qal aroudn 3 years ago ili by 2025, 10% tal population ta malta tkun klandestini....

guess he's proving himself year by year that he was always right... but noooo people just laughed at him and said he's crazy and that will never happen


The people did belief the fact that he said bout immigration (including me) but some people are leaders, others are not...

I mean go to http://www.imperium-europa.org/ . This this look like a leaders site?


and then sells this:

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[cabb.]

never said he was a leader, just took notice of what he said about immigration. He also mentioned something about multi cultural countries (that includes most of europe)...

malta is soon to be one of them, then what he didnt mention is that muslims will take over the multi cultural....

scares the crap out of me just thinking about the future....

when will world leaders and eu do something? im not mentioning UN because most of UN is just one big load of crap

[Polter]

If anyone really cared about sok, the result would be lol D;
Unit 1 is disguised under the title democracy and citizenship. In reality it's just about multicultural societies, how maltese are intolerant, blablabla
Also that is considered as art, because even though it's abstract art it conveys blablabla

That's the education we are supposed to follow thanks to retards :)

Malta needs someone with big balls and sense, not gonzi, not muscat, not lowell imo

[cabb.]

Malta needs someone with big balls and sense, not gonzi, not muscat, not lowell imo

big balls u'd say? malta seen one, and he was dom mintoff (although most of you don't agree)

[filthy hippie]

let me guess just had you SOK exam?
it was pretty hard, especially the art question


oh and down with the muslims

[FrodoLives]

blablabla
Also that is considered as art, because even though it's abstract art it conveys blablabla


lol ara kemm tiswa dik L'Abstract Art...

[cabb.]

nofs miljun ewrooooo..... sureeeeee :P

[Polter]

let me guess just had you SOK exam?
it was pretty hard, especially the art question


oh and down with the muslims

Just had it yeah, on art I messed it up. Others were ok though.

And Mintoff had balls YES. He just sided with the wrong side imo (Gaddafi and co)

[johnmaclane]

Just had it yeah, on art I messed it up. Others were ok though.

And Mintoff had balls YES. He just sided with the wrong side imo (Gaddafi and co)

I agree Mintoff had massive balls, like this post I also agree that gaddafi was a bad call. Then again I guess he did what ha had to do.

[cabb.]

I agree Mintoff had massive balls, like this post I also agree that gaddafi was a bad call. Then again I guess he did what ha had to do.

it was a different time back then, but still - nobody is perfect, more and more when it involves politicians.

[Polter]

it was a different time back then, but still - nobody is perfect, more and more when it involves politicians.

Some people do make him look like a god, which I'm sorry to say he's nowhere near it.

Just look at times comments when it comes to debates related to him. I've seen people say: "hope those times come back". I'm surely not.

[cabb.]

Some people do make him look like a god, which I'm sorry to say he's nowhere near it.

Just look at times comments when it comes to debates related to him. I've seen people say: "hope those times come back". I'm surely not.

no one's a god... and no, we do note want those times back now, surely not, we did move on forward as a country, but with some issues we haven't at the moment, and most likely we tend not to do anything about that...

on the other hand, mintoff has brought us on our feet, and i do believe that it happened as a country, even though some of the poeple didnt agree with mintoff, and today, in this present day, we need to move together as a country, at least to prevent these illegal immigrants from taking over....

[PeR0XiDe]

The people did belief the fact that he said bout immigration (including me) but some people are leaders, others are not...

I mean go to http://www.imperium-europa.org/ . This this look like a leaders site?


and then sells this:

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Lol @ overpriced paintings

andu wiehed "Eruption"... 12,000,000 Euro

[filthy hippie]

lol wat a dillusional idiot, who the fuck is going to pay for that rubbish




Painting name:
RAGING BULL SODOMISES CLOISTERED NUN
THAT BULGE!
DIONSYIAN DITHYRAMBS

was he drunk when he gave them names?
i wonder if he ever sold anything
most of those i could re-create in a few minutes

[Polter]

lol wat a dillusional idiot, who the fuck is going to pay for that rubbish




Painting name:
RAGING BULL SODOMISES CLOISTERED NUN
THAT BULGE!
DIONSYIAN DITHYRAMBS

was he drunk when he gave them names?
i wonder if he ever sold anything
most of those i could re-create in a few minutes

seconds would be plenty

[BravoDGr8]

lol wat a dillusional idiot, who the fuck is going to pay for that rubbish




Painting name:
RAGING BULL SODOMISES CLOISTERED NUN
THAT BULGE!
DIONSYIAN DITHYRAMBS

was he drunk when he gave them names?
i wonder if he ever sold anything
most of those i could re-create in a few minutes

i bet that if you send him an email and give him 1000 euro for the 200,000 one....he would accept lol.

[Midian]

Klandestini or Norman Lowell thread?

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090505/local/migrants-at-sea-will-get-help-to-reach-italy <-- i bet my balls EU will pull Gonzi from his ear and he will continue to take immigrants here

[filthy hippie]

whats norman lowell up to these days?

[Kevin]

Klandestini or Norman Lowell thread?

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090505/local/migrants-at-sea-will-get-help-to-reach-italy <-- i bet my balls EU will pull Gonzi from his ear and he will continue to take immigrants here

ma nafx intom, what do you expect the maltese government to do, ignore it's international obligations? We don't have a right to send the immigrants where we want, there are international laws and we have to abide by them.

[Polter]

The problem in point is even IF we weren't in the eu, we couldn't just ship them back (even though I wish we could). The un would probably do the usual, obey or sanction style of crap...

[cabb.]

ma nafx intom, what do you expect the maltese government to do, ignore it's international obligations? We don't have a right to send the immigrants where we want, there are international laws and we have to abide by them.

heh, we already went against the international law by accepting those immigrants which were closer to lampedusa... ma nafx jien jekk int kuntent kevin li immigranti jidhlu bl addoc f pajjizna, jien miniex

[Midian]

ma nafx intom, what do you expect the maltese government to do, ignore it's international obligations? We don't have a right to send the immigrants where we want, there are international laws and we have to abide by them.

International Obligations say that immigrants saved must be pulled to the nearest safe port. in the last case, lampedusa was the nearest safe port.

Italy pushed them back, we take them in... there's something wrong in here I think?

jien nippretendi li jekk l-Italja ma timxix ma ligijiet internazzjonali, u l-ewropa tigi ala l-bubun, nippretendi li ahna namlu l-istess. allfejn ahna biss li naqalaw fuq wiccna? mux pajjiz ewropew daqs l-italja ahna?

[johnmaclane]

Put them up! Up against the wall!

[Kevin]

heh, we already went against the international law by accepting those immigrants which were closer to lempesuda... ma nafx jien jekk int kuntent kevin li immigranti jidhlu bl addoc f pajjizna, jien miniex

ajma jahasra; ITALY went against international laws not us! according to what was said, there were immigrants in need of urgent help. if we let them die on our patrol boats you think it will make Malta look good? we did the right thing, and like is most often the case, the right thing comes at a cost!

not too long ago there were 150 immigrants that Italy pushed away, and we didn't accept them. so see the whole picture!

[filthy hippie]

just declare malta unsafe like italy did to lampedusa.
fight fire with fire, it italy is gonna bullshit, we bullshit back.

what else can we do?
EU doesnt obviously want to help
arab countries are only good for blow each other up
There is realyl nothing you can do if you choose to remain within the law

[johnmaclane]

No one got the pink floyd reference?

[Exclusive]

just declare malta unsafe like italy did to lampedusa.
fight fire with fire, it italy is gonna bullshit, we bullshit back.



Probably the best thing we can do right now. just play their game

[FrodoLives]

No one got the pink floyd reference?

yeah lol did

[FrodoLives]

Probably the best thing we can do right now. just play their game

and start a mutual war

[BravoDGr8]

and start a mutual war

if war is to be....war shall be....

THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAA (Sorry MALTAAAAAAA)

[Liquid]

no not really, eu cant afford to have members within it fight since that will show that eu is weak and loseing power thus they will solve the problem ASAP just to show those that want to "attack" eu that they are stronger then ever and still united

also if malta fights with italy, malta has a big problem, italy is the closest country that can offer support military wise and health wise so striclty speaking the backfire would be to harsh for malta to handle incase of a real need and that would force them to accept any deals they are given just to get help

[FrodoLives]

tehre we go again, 2 boats. lets see what happens now

[filthy hippie]

regarding military, no one is gonna invade malta anytime soon
so its not really a problem

[Liquid]

ye and how do you know what countries are planning, anyway the point is military is not only based on weapons, they provide support incase of emergencies, etc. they are the first to be deployed incase of an emergency (like the earthquake in italy) so dont look at the military just as invading, etc

[scarface]

i say we should unleash our military might upon italy and leave no trace of it for eternity :p

Anyways... I hope that Malta keeps up an iron fist on every occasion that is not within its responsibility.

[Polter]

good news:
An Italian chemical carrier, the Lia Ievoli, has been directed to change course and approach two boats carrying a total of 140 migrants drifting some 56 miles off Lampedusa.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090506/local/two-migrants-boats-reported-off-lampedusa

[Midian]

good news:
An Italian chemical carrier, the Lia Ievoli, has been directed to change course and approach two boats carrying a total of 140 migrants drifting some 56 miles off Lampedusa.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090506/local/two-migrants-boats-reported-off-lampedusa

and where will it go after the pick up? heh

[G-lock]

and where will it go after the pick up? heh

not here for sure.

[Midian]

not here for sure.

in fact...


An Italian chemical carrier which was directed to pick up migrants from two boats drifting off Lambedusa reported this afternoon that it could not find the boats, and was continuing on its way to Tunisia.

[Polter]

Just came to know a gayish fact for Italy, every time they pick illegal immigrants that leave from libya, they have to pay malta to pass through its waters lofl

[G-lock]

excelent news . good job/news for once.

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090507/local/italy-cheers-direct-repatriation-of-migrants

[FrodoLives]

Oh,

did it need to be 7th May 2009 to realize that they can be turned back instead of bringing them to our shores?



Hope this is the first trigger of a larger operation

[Sp|DEy^]

i hope they start sending back the ones that have been here for long too

[Kevin]

ole'

hope we'll be able to keep it up though, because tbh I don't see it standing!

[Midian]

i dont know what the problem is, majority of malta wants them sent back, for long time now... im really really hoping that this is just the first of millions sent back

[mikk]

Oh,

did it need to be 7th May 2009 to realize that they can be turned back instead of bringing them to our shores?



Hope this is the first trigger of a larger operation

there are such things as diplomatic roadblocks. Hi Libya.

[Exclusive]

there are such things as diplomatic roadblocks. Hi Libya.

Yep indeed, but there goes the Italian-Libya agreement ( i think it was held a year ago). Italy had admitted of causing economic damage to Libya during the 1911-1943 colonial era, and agreed to pay a total of $ 5 billion in 'damages' to Libya. Hence Libya will take the money and probably get on with this, or atleast I hope.

The only problem is that NGO's like Medicenes Sans Frontieres, Jesuits, Amnesty International etc...will always stick their noses in between saying that these people need help and what not. Thing is that most of these NGO's ( except for the nagging Jesuits ) are supported mainly from countries like Germany and France, where they do not face the problem of having ILLEGAL immigrants coming in by boats every week. Hence, Italy and Malta, being the two european countries who are greatly effected by this invasion, should not fight against each other on who gets to shelter money-leechers, but rather working together on deporting their arses back to where they came from i.e. Libya.

[filthy hippie]

malta invades libya
thats what i want to see next week ont he newspaper

[johnmaclane]

malta invades libya
thats what i want to see next week ont he newspaper

Ideally the EU should do what president Lincoln partly did.

Colonize a piece of afrika in which to move all the immigrants in, (his plan was for the blacks) like that immediate repatriation can be conducted and the immigrants dont risk persecution.

Of course it would never happen because taking a piece of Africa is a big no no.

[PeR0XiDe]

Ideally the EU should do what president Lincoln partly did.

Colonize a piece of afrika in which to move all the immigrants in, (his plan was for the blacks) like that immediate repatriation can be conducted and the immigrants dont risk persecution.

Of course it would never happen because taking a piece of Africa is a big no no.

I see...

[BravoDGr8]

You are seeing what a year and a half after??? lol!

[PeR0XiDe]

I am acknowledging his argument, that took me a year and a half to understand fully

[BravoDGr8]

You seem to have done a good research :)